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Old 11-17-2019, 07:53 PM   #2001
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An elite kicker has to be worth at least 2 wins a season. Games are so close week in and out the value of a top kicker is certainly higher than a running back for instance.
I'd be very curious to know how many games Tucker, Vinatieri or Gostkowski have won their team over the years
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:10 PM   #2002
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Tarik Cohen is an absolute gem. If he was in a better system he would be a household name
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:21 PM   #2003
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Eli may have dropped off significantly, but most overrated QB of all time?

Dude’s got two Super Bowl Rings. Overrated QBs don’t win one
Eli is probably one of the most overrated QBs of all time. He was on two teams that won the Super Bowl but he never really led the Giants to a Super Bowl. He has been lucky to have WRs that could make him look good. He has been voted twice by his peers as the most overrated QB (2017 & 2019.)
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:24 PM   #2004
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Raiders tied for the division lead after 10 games
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:47 PM   #2005
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These QBs were both drafted second overall and they both look like CFL backups. This is ugggly.
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Old 11-17-2019, 08:51 PM   #2006
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These QBs were both drafted second overall and they both look like CFL backups. This is ugggly.
Either would start over Charmin soft Bo Levi.
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:07 PM   #2007
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Trubisky Benched?
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:14 PM   #2008
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Interesting. Chase Daniel is much worse.

Of all the players tonight I do t thi k Trubisky was the problem today. Made some big throws
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:50 PM   #2009
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Afterwards the Bears claimed that Trubisky had a hip injury. It did not make sense to pull him at that time based on prrformance.
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:04 PM   #2010
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Regardless of why he was pulled it's abundantly clear he is not a starter in the NFL and the Bears are gonna be desperate this offseason to get Foles or Minshew or Cam or anyone who could give them league average QB play because their otherwise good team is being wasted with backup level QB play. Also doesn't seem like Nagy has much rope left either, Trubisky does suck but their playcalling is often bad too.
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:31 AM   #2011
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Eddy Piniero is ass.
I don't think Nagy will try another kick all night. Kickers in general have been ass this year.
Agent Eddy Pinero is doing amazing undercover work, getting that 1st rounder into the top 10
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Agent Eddy Pinero is doing amazing undercover work, getting that 1st rounder into the top 10
The first pick used from the Mack trade is 4th in league rushing. Would be nice to still have Mack but Jacobs has been a difference maker and Raiders 4th round rookie Max Crosby has one more sack than Mack does. Now that 2nd Bears pick appears that it's going to be in the 10-15 range or better. My how trades can look different a year later as it's funny how the media isn't bringing the Mack trade up much this season.
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Speaking of kickers, why is there such a spike in missed kicks that were fairly makeable in the past? Is the pool of incoming kickers becoming worse, or have special team coaches figured out a way to throw kickers off when rushing them?
My theory is that the trend of kickers missing a lot of kicks coincides with moving the single point to a 32 yard kick. Kickers used to only have to focus on making FG's as the single point was automatic but now kickers are having to make FG-length attempts after every TD plus FG's when their teams can't get into the end zone. Kickers are simply having to make a lot more kicks now and maybe coaching and mental preparation hasn't changed to cope with it.
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I just tuned into MNF and my first thought was wow where did all these LA Chargers fans come from? Oh the game is in Mexico City.
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Field looks like crap as always in this stadium.
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Someone is definitely tearing an ACL on this turf tonight.
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Rivers looks pretty close to done, Eli is done and Ben might be done too. That 2004 class is gonna all be retired before Brady.
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Rivers looks pretty close to done, Eli is done and Ben might be done too. That 2004 class is gonna all be retired before Brady.
It certainly appears that way although Brady's game has kind of taken a nosedive as well. I predicted at the beginning of the season that some of these old QB's could decline quickly. Too many of these guys have defied the odds.
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:15 PM   #2019
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Chargers always find a way to sabotage themselves.
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This team is god awful
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