2015 NHL Draft

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Similar story to Monahan perhaps? Monahan's numbers didn't improve in his draft year as well. Just judging by their stats on that team, doesn't look like there's a lot there besides Konecny and Salituro. No concerns from me, he's a hard-worker who'll improve on this team.

Good point, but I think in Monahan's case he lost two very good teammates during his draft year (Toffoli & Prince). That doesn't appear to be the case with Konecny, but like you said he doesn't seem like he has much help on that team either year.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

There's even a better one between Jets and Flyers:
Dustin Byfuglien
Blake Wheeler
Scot Kosmachuck
Eric Comrie
2016 1st round pick (WPG)
2017 1st round pick (WPG)
3rd round (#78 overall)
2016 6th round pick (WPG)

for

Jakub Voracek
Yevgeny Medvedev
5th round (#128 overall)

Yikes.

Ah yes, the old 8 pieces for 3 swap you see so often throughout NHL history.

Also it's interesting to note that Voracek apparently has more trade value than Crosby. Good to know.

[azzarish]

I was going to put this in the CP mock draft poll for #52 and #53 but that thread is closed now. I know he’ll likely be gone by 52 but if Nicolas Meloche is somehow still around at #45 he would be a great pick. I can see him going early in the 2nd round though. I would expect Noah Juulson and Vince Dunn to both be gone by 45 too. We’ll likely have a better shot at Travis Dermott or Matt Spencer, both of who would be decent 2nd round picks as everything I’ve seen of them seems glowing, with some saying Dermott could be a steal in the 2nd round.

What everyone’s thoughts on Rasmus Andersson? His stats seem impressive, and he’s known as a very offensive defensman. He should be available at 45, although I have seen his ranking differ quite a bit in various rankings.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by azzarish

I was going to put this in the CP mock draft poll for #52 and #53 but that thread is closed now. I know he’ll likely be gone by 52 but if Nicolas Meloche is somehow still around at #45 he would be a great pick. I can see him going early in the 2nd round though. I would expect Noah Juulson and Vince Dunn to both be gone by 45 too. We’ll likely have a better shot at Travis Dermott or Matt Spencer, both of who would be decent 2nd round picks as everything I’ve seen of them seems glowing, with some saying Dermott could be a steal in the 2nd round.

What everyone’s thoughts on Rasmus Andersson? His stats seem impressive, and he’s known as a very offensive defensman. He should be available at 45, although I have seen his ranking differ quite a bit in various rankings.

Andersson at 45 or 52-53 is a thing that should happen. I've been following him since the 2015 NHL scouting staff released their who to watch list after last years draft. He's trending the right way but dropped in the rankings all year.

[sureLoss]

The reason Andersson is dropping is that a lot of scouts don't think his offense will translate into the NHL (i.e. in their opinion he is doing things that you can get away with doing in junior, but won't be able to do at the next level)

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The reason Andersson is dropping is that a lot of scouts don't think his offense will translate into the NHL (i.e. in their opinion he is doing things that you can get away with doing in junior, but won't be able to do at the next level)

That's fair. Good risk reward with any of the 2nd round picks if you can snag him. First round talent IMO. Lots of risers in the last half of the hockey year pushed him down as well but he really didn't do anything to drop his ranking either.

[Caged Great]

There are better players in round 2 than Andersson. If he's on the board at 75/83 then they should snap him up then.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

You just never know what other teams may do. We might see someone jump up from the mid teens in the rankings into the top 10, sort of like how Scheifele was rated in the 12-18 range before the draft and getting picked at 7 by the Jets.

Some of that can be half predicted. If you ever see a big, skilled centre rated in the teens they will probably go higher. That year I was hoping Scheiffele or Zibanejad would go outside the top 10, both were rated just outside of it. But what happened? All the centres went early that year, all of them went top 10.

Years like that are why I have my philosophy that big centres will often go higher.

How does that apply to this year? If a team feels Connor projects as a centre I think he could go top 10. Zacha probably won't fall out of the top 10 and may go top 8 even. Centre is more important of a position than the wing and some teams will prioritize it and end up ranking centres who are close to winger above them on their list. Zacha is a bit weird in that some scouts feel like he might be a winger but there's probably a team or two in the top 10 that see him as a centre.

So my prediction is that Zacha is a surefire top 10 pick and that Connor may go top 10 and is unlikely to fall out of the top 12. Joel Eriksson-Ek may go top 20 as a big, skilled centre.

[Freeway]

30 different teams, 30 different lists.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That's fair. Good risk reward with any of the 2nd round picks if you can snag him. First round talent IMO. Lots of risers in the last half of the hockey year pushed him down as well but he really didn't do anything to drop his ranking either.

Man, if he dropped to the 3rd round, I hope management gets him (assuming we don't pick him with a 2nd).

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Freeway

30 different teams, 30 different lists.

And within each of those lists are 30+ other lists and voices.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

And within each of those lists are 30+ other lists and voices.

With one board to rule them all

[cral12]

Ladies and gentlemen, get to know Mr. Clutch, Nick Merkley a little bit better.

link to full article

[cral12]

2015 NHL Mock Draft: The Next Ones 3 Round Final Countdown Edition

2015 NHL Mock Draft: 3 Round Final Edition

3 rounds.
91 picks.
Prospect notes on each.
Spreadsheet and PDF versions.

Go ahead, mock my mock!

LINK

BONUS:
With all these picks made, easy way to who each team selects - view the Flames virtual shiny new prospects:
3 Round NHL Mock Draft: Team by Team Picks
link

[Caged Great]

If those ended up being our picks, that would be a home run to the 5th deck of skydome.

[automaton 3]

Can't wait for the draft. This management group is running like a well-oiled machine and I have no doubt they are going to select very good players.

Such a turn-around from the draft debacles of the not so distant past, as referenced in Bingo's article.

[Robbob]

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...=cursive&csz=1

[GranteedEV]

the idea of LA adding Kyle Connor makes me sick to my stomach.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Some profiles from Redline Report

Ivan Provorov
Timo Meier
Pavel Zacha
Dylan Strome
Nick Merkley
Brandon Carlo
Colin White

Colin White is a guy we haven't talked about a lot. Both him and Eriksson-Ek might be two possibilities at #15 for the Flames.

[sureLoss]

Bob McKenzie's draft preview show now on TSN2.