Edmonton is No Good XI: Mud, Sweatpants and Tiers

[stang]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

You’re missing the point that a large number of their back to backs are ALSO teams on back to backs. It’s like having a beer league game with 8 skaters but your opponent also has 8 skaters

Playing a rested team while tired:
Edmonton 7
Calgary 6
Vancouver 6

Playing a tired team while rested.
Vancouver 11
Edmonton 10
Flames 9

I’ll double check but if the Oilers play B2B 10 times and 7 times the teams rested, that means 3 times both teams are on a back to back.

Not sure that’s a “large number”

[Robbob]

I recalled stumbling upon this blog. Granted this is almost 10 years now, but provides a little insight on how the schedule is created. It would not surprise me if the NHL teams have learned a bit on how to game the system a bit. Sure some teams that have busy arena have less flexibility, but I am sure along the way when submitting open days they found some advantages.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by stang

Playing a rested team while tired:
Edmonton 7
Calgary 6
Vancouver 6

Playing a tired team while rested.
Vancouver 11
Edmonton 10
Flames 9

I’ll double check but if the Oilers play B2B 10 times and 7 times the teams rested, that means 3 times both teams are on a back to back.

Not sure that’s a “large number”

This is about what I thought. It's kind of like the Oilers get way more powerplays argument. the grouping of powerplay opportunities is league wide is pretty tight.

https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-s...ory=powerplays

[stang]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

You’re missing the point that a large number of their back to backs are ALSO teams on back to backs. It’s like having a beer league game with 8 skaters but your opponent also has 8 skaters

I found 2 both against the Pens:
March 3 Pits @ Edm Both teams played the night before
March 10 Edm @ Pits Both teams played the night before

Other B2B for Oilers
Dec 22/23 Vs NYR (They didnt play the night before)
Dec 31/23 VS ANA (They didnt play the night before)
Feb 10/24 Vs LAK (They didnt play the night before)
Feb 24/24 Vs CGY(They didnt play the night before)
Mar 24/24 VS OTT (They dont play the night before)
April 6/24 Vs CGY (They dont play the night before)
April 13/24 Vs VAN (They dont play the night before)
April 1/24 VS COL (They dont play the night before)5

So of the 10 B2B Games the Oilers play only 2 are against teams that are also on a back to back.

And of the 10 B2B games, only 2 dont involve travel for the Oilers.

Again sounds like whinging to me.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

This is about what I thought. It's kind of like the Oilers get way more powerplays argument. the grouping of powerplay opportunities is league wide is pretty tight.

https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-s...ory=powerplays

With the PPs, it’s not how many the Oilers are getting. It’s WHEN they’re getting them. Seems like every time they’re down a goal or if they’re getting their heads caved in 5 on 5 and they desperately need a momentum boost… boom, automatic McPP.

The obvious game management is just ridiculous. And don’t even get me started on the amount of times the officials fall for McDavid’s holding the opponent’s stick bulls***.

[IamNotKenKing]

There seems to be a misunderstanding in this thread, based upon a few posts as of late, so just as a reminder:

EDMONTON IS NO GOOD!

Thank you. That is all.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Oilers have faced more backups than any team in the league...call it whatever you like but when its over 30 in early March you can't deny it has had an impact on their record.

I notice you didn't have any fancy stats for this one
E=NG

Reality check in the playoffs

[stang]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I notice you didn't have any fancy stats for this one
E=NG

Reality check in the playoffs

Already addressed it in another thread. Not sure what you want on this?

Originally Posted by stang

You honestly think the league put out a mandate to all the other teams that they need to play their backups against the Oilers and they all listened and kept their mouth shut and no one cried foul?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by stang

Already addressed it in another thread. Not sure what you want on this?

read again, call it what you want...it has helped the Oilers record and their personal stats. How couldn't it?

Backups are backups for a reason
You also have zero credibility after the houdini you pulled at the start of the season lol, don't forget where you are

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by stang

I found 2 both against the Pens:
March 3 Pits @ Edm Both teams played the night before
March 10 Edm @ Pits Both teams played the night before

Other B2B for Oilers
Dec 22/23 Vs NYR (They didnt play the night before)
Dec 31/23 VS ANA (They didnt play the night before)
Feb 10/24 Vs LAK (They didnt play the night before)
Feb 24/24 Vs CGY(They didnt play the night before)
Mar 24/24 VS OTT (They dont play the night before)
April 6/24 Vs CGY (They dont play the night before)
April 13/24 Vs VAN (They dont play the night before)
April 1/24 VS COL (They dont play the night before)5

So of the 10 B2B Games the Oilers play only 2 are against teams that are also on a back to back.

And of the 10 B2B games, only 2 dont involve travel for the Oilers.

Again sounds like whinging to me.

I don't think that is right. I know they had 2 B2B at home alone. They also had a couple in Cali where there was no travel, one in New York. So at least half are no travel. Then you add one of them was a flight to Calgary, one a flight home from Seattle from an afternoon game. Now you are up to 7 where they had no or very little travel. I think their only significant travel from a B2B is that last game of the season.

[stang]

Originally Posted by dino7c

read again, call it what you want...it has helped the Oilers record and their personal stats. How couldn't it?

Backups are backups for a reason
You also have zero credibility after the houdini you pulled at the start of the season lol, don't forget where you are

Is this part of the league mandate to give the Oilers the easiest schedule possible? Pretty sure the NHL doesnt control the lineups set by the teams. Nor do the Oilers. Can only play whats put in front of them.

And I was here during the beggining of the season, I was also here during the 8 game winning streak, I was also here during the 16 game winning streak. I was here when the Oilers won the Heritage Classic (Which I was at)

I just didnt post during those times. I don't give a shoot about what you think my credibility is. Ive been here right through the decade of darkness.

I was a "Houdini" through both oilers wins against the flames and the 16 game winning streak. Why not call me out on that?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I don't think that is right. I know they had 2 B2B at home alone. They also had a couple in Cali where there was no travel, one in New York. So at least half are no travel. Then you add one of them was a flight to Calgary, one a flight home from Seattle from an afternoon game. Now you are up to 7 where they had no or very little travel. I think their only significant travel from a B2B is that last game of the season.

Was one a Vancouver as well?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

How many games vs backups for Bumonton this year?

They have to be near the top if not at the top.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I don't think that is right. I know they had 2 B2B at home alone. They also had a couple in Cali where there was no travel, one in New York. So at least half are no travel. Then you add one of them was a flight to Calgary, one a flight home from Seattle from an afternoon game. Now you are up to 7 where they had no or very little travel. I think their only significant travel from a B2B is that last game of the season.

Yeah I may have missed the NY/Cali trips, but are they in the same arena or is it a case of they stay in the same Hotel and just bus to different arenas? I am not as versed on the locations of the other teams arenas.

I put my findings in a google doc if you want to check it out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...eUS5LT/pubhtml

EDIT: Yeah I counted NJ and NY as travel, same with ANA/LAK. They wouldnt have to travel in between those games?

I would count playing in Edmonton one night and Calgary the next as travel....

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

How many games vs backups for Bumonton this year?

They have to be near the top if not at the top.

There was a number that was floated around last week. I think it was 27. So probably higher if that was the case. Kind of crazy that is half their games.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Robbob

There was a number that was floated around last week. I think it was 27. So probably higher if that was the case. Kind of crazy that is half their games.

Sounds about right. Its been a LOT, that's all I know.

Papery origami kittens.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by stang

Yeah I may have missed the NY/Cali trips, but are they in the same arena or is it a case of they stay in the same Hotel and just bus to different arenas? I am not as versed on the locations of the other teams arenas.

I put my findings in a google doc if you want to check it out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...eUS5LT/pubhtml

EDIT: Yeah I counted NJ and NY as travel, same with ANA/LAK. They wouldnt have to travel in between those games?

I would count playing in Edmonton one night and Calgary the next as travel....

LA/ANA is same area where they just bus. Same with the New York area. No travel when those teams are in a B2B situation.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Robbob

LA/ANA is same area where they just bus. Same with the New York area. No travel when those teams are in a B2B situation.

I will update thanks

[stang]

Originally Posted by Robbob

LA/ANA is same area where they just bus. Same with the New York area. No travel when those teams are in a B2B situation.

Where does the line get drawn? Little travel is still travel. Pittsburg playing in Calgary then Edmonton to me is still considered travel.

I think if you stay in the same hotel for both games thats considered no travel?

[Eric Vail]

This is one of my favourite E=ng clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-KAoQ6mgNk



The Oilers walk of shame is pretty no good as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtrzegOYOyY