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View Poll Results: Who do you want as the Flames' new coach
Darryl Sutter 232 27.59%
Alain Vigneault 395 46.97%
Barry Trotz 72 8.56%
Bill Peters 31 3.69%
Lindy Ruff 16 1.90%
Dallas Eakins 16 1.90%
Sheldon Keefe 6 0.71%
Dave Tippett 30 3.57%
Someone else... 43 5.11%
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:13 PM   #1981
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By the way, this comes right on the heels of Stauffer and Spector saying he was staying.

Just in case anyone out there still took those clowns seriously.
Not for a second did I believe those two titanic twats, but it still feels good man.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:13 PM   #1982
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I really hope this isn't true. I just can't get why Treliving would bet his job that this guy is going to go totally against his results in the NHL thus far.
The last thing I would want is a GM who is making his next coaching hire out of a sense of fear for his own job-security. I would much rather he trust his own instincts and analysis, and select the man he believes is the best choice to take the team forward. This is what he is paid for, is it not?
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:13 PM   #1983
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Late to the party here and haven't read all the previous comments. This may have already been posted and my apologies if so. Did BT yell and swear and throw a hockey stick when he fired them?
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:14 PM   #1984
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Yeah, I hope the rush to fire GG is so that we can get AV's sig before Dallas and not to get Peters during his quit window.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:16 PM   #1985
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The last thing I would want is a GM who is making his next coaching hire out of a sense of fear for his own job-security. I would much rather he trust his own instincts and analysis, and select the man he believes is the best choice to take the team forward. This is what he is paid for, is it not?
He was also paid to, by conventional wisdom, have 2 goalies for Hartley.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:17 PM   #1986
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The last thing I would want is a GM who is making his next coaching hire out of a sense of fear for his own job-security. I would much rather he trust his own instincts and analysis, and select the man he believes is the best choice to take the team forward. This is what he is paid for, is it not?
They're not exclusive of each other though. You're not hiring a coach with a proven track record in spite of them being bad. You're hiring a quality coach. The last time this team had a measure of success they played a more up tempo game. Under Gulatzan they played a more deliberate, slower paced, possession focused game that seemingly the construction of the team isn't ideal for.

From all accounts, Peters also has this style. Combined with the lack of any success at this level, the level we care about, it's not a comforting feeling.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:18 PM   #1987
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So, was Friedman just speculating on Peters, or did he claim to know something on the inside?

Friedman is a good insider on a lot of things, but he also speculates on his own a lot (and usually makes it clear when he is just speculating).

If it ends up being Peters, I will wait to see the results before judging, just like I did with Gulutzan (though my gut feeling at the time was that it was a bad hire).
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But at this stage you can't really experiment anymore. Flames need to take the next step in a big way, why not just go with coaches that have shown some success?
Because they may not be the right person for the job. I think it is absurd to think that this decision is just as simple as picking the guy who has appeared in the most number playoff games.
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It is "armchair" because that is precisely the mentality so many of us armchair observers employ in making these decisions. Prior to this season Girard Gallant had won only two playoff games, and now he is poised to take his team to the second round.
Then let's get a coach that has won at least 2 playoff games.
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Was Peters the one that called out Lack during a post game interview? lol
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:21 PM   #1991
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Wow well there it is..... Strangely, not as excited or happy about this.

When will this franchise get the mix right? Almost 30 years without having the ingredients of gm, coach, talented players needed to be considered any kind of actual cup contender.

Blind faith 'hope this time works' here we come (again)....
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They're not exclusive of each other though. You're not hiring a coach with a proven track record in spite of them being bad. You're hiring a quality coach. The last time this team had a measure of success they played a more up tempo game. Under Gulatzan they played a more deliberate, slower paced, possession focused game that seemingly the construction of the team isn't ideal for.

From all accounts, Peters also has this style. Combined with the lack of any success at this level, the level we care about, it's not a comforting feeling.
Not from what I have seen. I have noticed a number of posters today have commented about how fast and entertaining Carolina has looked under Peters. Does Vignault or Sutter employ "a more up-tempo game"? I don't think that is the best description of either of their approaches.

I just think it is silly to dismiss outright the possibility that he would be a good choice.
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The last thing I would want is a GM who is making his next coaching hire out of a sense of fear for his own job-security. I would much rather he trust his own instincts and analysis, and select the man he believes is the best choice to take the team forward. This is what he is paid for, is it not?
He should be hiring the most accomplished coach he can. Full stop. Its not a matter of believing in the GM, logic says he should do this because it's repeatable. The Flames shouldn't have to hope their coach exceeds his norm/results to make any progress with their roster.
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Was Peters the one that called out Lack during a post game interview? lol
Yep. And for good reason. Lack is not an nhl goalie.
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It's kind of odd that Treliving suddenly declares the team needs an experienced coach. When he went from Hartley to Gulutzan, it was such a backwards move in that respect.
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Top comment on Peters from r/Hurricanes coaching thread...Sounds like a former coach lol

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Terrible distribution of icetime, pretty awful forward lines for most of the season, can't motivate the team to play 60 min. Let him go
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Too bad it didn’t work out but probably for the best.

Now to hope a new coach, and hopefully the right coach for this group, is the difference.
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I just think it is silly to dismiss outright the possibility that he would be a good choice.
It must be reasonable to question his ability to make the playoffs as a NHL coach, being 0 for 4
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No. You will know no such thing.
...what?

I'd say we have a pretty good idea at this point, considering he just gave the guy he thought "was going to take this team to the next level" his walking papers after one of the most miserable seasons this organization has known in a long time, with high expectations too.

No, he's not as smart as he thinks, and I don't see any need to be adamantly defending his decisions or the processes that they go through. Not after he just fessed up to it in a presser.
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