2017 NFL season thread

[habernac]

totally should have got one of these in Pittsburgh.

[Erick Estrada]

That's disgusting. I would be ashamed to be a part of a fan base that would wear that shirt. I'm no fan of Burfict but tee bagging a guy after you just clocked him is disgusting behavior and should never be tolerated regardless of the circumstances.

[habernac]

he's a dick, I don't mind them making fun of him like that.

[Sainters7]

Of course the Bucs couldn't close that out last night, nice effort though. Even during this streak, Atlanta doesn't look like last year's squad at all. I could be completely wrong, but I'm fairly confident as a Saints fan going into this weekend against them at home, they're still hot from that Thursday nighter.

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by habernac

totally should have got one of these in Pittsburgh.

I'm not an expert but maybe the non-TD call against the Steelers and AB getting injured is karma from Steelers fans celebrating that hit on Burfict

[devo22]

or, you know, maybe the assumption that every Steelers fan celebrated the hit/taunting/"karma" stuff is a bit ridiculous.

[Simanium]

Originally Posted by devo22

or, you know, maybe the assumption that every Steelers fan celebrated the hit/taunting/"karma" stuff is a bit ridiculous.

Fans aside, it was AB himself that said the Burfict hit was "Karma" and then he got hurt...

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Simanium

Fans aside, it was AB himself that said the Burfict hit was "Karma" and then he got hurt...

yup, and that's stupid IMO as well. Just saying, I can't imagine I'm the only Steelers fan who didn't celebrate the Juju/Burfict stuff. I despise Burfict as much as any other fan, but celebrating injuries is disgusting. That happening in a game where a Steeler is carried off the field without feeling his legs is unreal.

The Steelers/Bengals rivalry is honestly appalling to me. It's completely different from, say, Steelers/Ravens where I feel there's a lot of mutual respect despite the rivalry and the tough physical games. But in those Steelers/Bengals games, every ounce of sportsmanship seems to go out of the window. As a fan, I don't get any joy out of that to be honest.

[Sainters7]

Ugh, in back to back days, Saints LB AJ Klein and now S Kenny Vaccaro placed on injured reserve. What an awful year for injuries on that side of the ball for them, just dropping like flies.

Is it just me, or is this just an insane year for injuries? Not helping the future growth of the sport at all

[GirlySports]

this is an amazing stat

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/s...79227399401472

This should help put into perspective just how good the Browns run defense is... and also just how historically terrible Hue Jackson must be to allow a defense like this to go winless

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

this is an amazing stat

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/s...79227399401472

Any other coach would have been fired mid-season but Hue for whatever reason has some kind of aura around him that he actually a good head coach despite not being able to get anything out of any of multiple Browns starting QB's over the past two seasons and that supposedly being his strength.

[Sylvanfan]

In a way that statement is misleading because teams rack up a lot of rushing attempts not too concerned with gaining yards. The Browns will eventually still have 1500 yards against them on 470 attempts. They are really good at stopping the run....but teams still run 30 times a game against them.

[devo22]

still, in combination with a somewhat acceptable pass defense (21st in yrds/g) they end up with a very average overall defense (16th in yrds/g). Going 0-14 in those circumstances is completely ridiculous.

[transplant99]

Numerous law enforcement and emergency agencies have converged at Lambeau Field in Green Bay.

Green Bay police say they responded early Friday afternoon to a "possible disturbance with a vehicle" at the stadium where the Green Bay Packers play.

A source told ESPN's Rob Demovsky that a former stadium worker -- not in the football department -- tried to gain access through the loading dock.

Hopefully not some batcrap crazy looking to do big damage. Their is a game there tomorrow night.

[devo22]

The Steelers have released James Harrison

wow

[chemgear]

#### Green Bay. Pathetic.

[dirk diggler]

without Rodgers, the Packers are who we thought they were. Ted Thompson has been living off of Rodgers talents for so long. Their d has been average at best since their SB win and TT and Dom Capers seem to get a free pass

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by devo22

The Steelers have released James Harrison

wow

Love to see the Pats sign him just because.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

without Rodgers, the Packers are who we thought they were. Ted Thompson has been living off of Rodgers talents for so long. Their d has been average at best since their SB win and TT and Dom Capers seem to get a free pass

It was a lot more than just "without Rodgers" yesterday. That list of starters out or lost early in the game numbered 11, and several of those guys were replacements for the guys that started the season in their spots . Literally half of the team sans special team guys and particularly on the O-line and secondary. Defensively the team was actually really good with a number of important guys out.

That being said, I agree there needs to be some serious changes on the defensive side of the ball and a whole lot of internal looking at how they are preparing their guys physically. Thats 3 years of heavy injuries, both on the line and in the secondary. Seemingly way more than other teams over that span.

I'm hoping TT calls it a career this off season, though he probably stays one more and they will leave that up to him. Capers has to go though. His way just doesnt work anymore. They are far to vulnerable over the middle with the 3-4 set up which puts far too much pressure on the corners for big plays downfield because there outside rush guys...just dont get to the QB enough.

All that aside though, been a pretty good run the last decade. 9 straight seasons in the playoffs, 3 championship games, 1 SB win. Though it feels like they left a couple SB appearances on the table, the success of this team and coaching staff is second to only one in the league.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well I would say in the last nine years the Steelers, Broncos and Seahawks are all unquestionably more successful than the Packers. All have won the Super Bowl and made another Super Bowl. Teams like the Panthers, Falcons, Ravens and Saints can also surpass the Packers this year with a SB win or appearance, assuming the measure of success is making the championship game (which it is...). The Packers obviously have only the one appearance, so pretty much impossible to say they rank only behind the Patriots in terms of success. They have a much better claim to being the most disappointing team in the last nine years than being the most successful.

They are basically the Peyton Colts, a legendary QB carrying a roster that might be one of the 5-10 worst rosters in the league. Like LeBron you could basically give him the MVP every year the last 6-7 years and no one could complain, the Packers would be in the #1 pick race most of those years without him, not the team everyone wants to avoid in the playoffs. Just imagine what the last nine years would be for Rodgers if you gave him the Seahawks or Patriots roster. Three Super Bowls might be the minimum amount of wins.