Giving up your seat...

[Burninator]

I asked my girlfriend who takes the train about this. She thought it was utterly ridiculous that someone should give up their seat for her because she is standing. She said that if a man and a women are both walking to the same seat that the guy should allow the women to sit down. But if the man is already sitting down then it's first come first serve and he shouldn't feel obliged at all to give up his seat unless it's for a pregnant lady, someone that has trouble standing or a senior citizen. I'll be sure to tell her that her attitude is wrong and she is preventing men from being real men.


Why is the train and the bus this strange place where women get priority for some of you? I assume you all pull over in traffic when a women is driving behind you and that you let a women go in front of you when you are standing in line for something. Kind of strange that you are being a gentleman giving up your seat for a standing woman on a train, but you don't give up your place in line for the same standing woman.

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I dont understand this whole "bus lane" thing

I mean come on...why do poor people have to get anywhere faster than me?

Smart people ride transit downtown for the 9-5 shift.

[ynwa03]

All this thread proves is men and women are biologically different. Some people in here stick by that and without straight up admitting it, would give up their seat to a woman because they are biologically 'more fragile.' Others go by the equal rights argument and they have a point as well. Sometimes women want it both ways. They demand equality in all regards, but then will sucker a man into doing something that is manly, or a form of chivalry. If we are equal, why should a man prove his manhood by making a woman's bus ride more tolerable? And if we are biologically so different, then why shouldn't i offer my seat to a middle aged woman?

[Jordan!]

What bothers me is when I see a moderately obese/out of shape half ######ed woman or man expect me to give up my seat for them.

No dice.. Just because I eat good and the fact that i'm active doesn't mean you get my seat fatty.

Old folks, actual disabled, women with children I get up for 100% of the time. On my flight to Kaua'i I had an entire row to myself and I gave it up to a young family with an infant. It's just courtesy.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

What bothers me is when I see a moderately obese/out of shape half ######ed woman or man expect me to give up my seat for them.

No dice.. Just because I eat good and the fact that i'm active doesn't mean you get my seat fatty.

Old folks, actual disabled, women with children I get up for 100% of the time. On my flight to Kaua'i I had an entire row to myself and I gave it up to a young family with an infant. It's just courtesy.

That's pretty judgmental. Sometimes genes have a lot to do with how fat or skinny you are. Sometimes people have heart conditions or other difficulties that make exercise difficult. Just because someone is severely overweight doesn't mean they eat uncontrollably.

And i'll assume your "half ######ed" comment is a lame attempt at humour.

[anyonebutedmonton]

The thing for me is that I ride these god forsaken trains for like 1.5 hours a day. The only thing that makes them bearable is being able to distract myself by reading etc. If I was someone who rode it once in a while for a quick 15 minute trip I wouldn't even bother sitting down, but I am on these things for at least 35 minutes per trip.

In this particular instance it was an honest case of me not paying attention to who was on the train because I was focused on the book I was reading. Is it my duty as a "man" to constantly scan the crowd for those who are either female or older than myself? I don't really want to spend that much time doing that, I would rather drive.

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Kind of strange that you are being a gentleman giving up your seat for a standing woman on a train, but you don't give up your place in line for the same standing woman.

It might be strange when and where or how you were raised, but for most of the men that grew up in Western Canada we would feel guilty if a woman fell or got hurt because we were a lazy punk ass that wouldn't offer our seat.

Ask your girlfriend if she would appreciate a man offering his seat to her, and ask her what the OP should have done in that situation.

In my opinion the OP is a disrespecting punk, and should be taught some manors the "old school" way. He said himself that he was pissed off at her.

What a punk.

[Jetsfan]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

No you don't do it because of chivalry, you do it because you are fake want to impress girls. Chivalry would be doing it for everyone. A girl I dated used to laugh at guys like you who think you are being such a gentleman everything by throwing down your jacket over a puddle for a women to walk over, but wouldn't even consider holding a door open for a guy who is right beside you... because the action is so fake.

Exactly.

Chilvalry = Begging a woman for sex.

Begging a woman for sex = No Sex For You!!!

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Pinner

It might be strange when and where or how you were raised, but for most of the men that grew up in Western Canada we would feel guilty if a woman fell or got hurt because we were a lazy punk ass that wouldn't offer our seat.

Ask your girlfriend if she would appreciate a man offering his seat to her, and ask her what the OP should have done in that situation.

In my opinion the OP is a disrespecting punk, and should be taught some manors the "old school" way. He said himself that he was pissed off at her.

What a punk.

I won't give my seat up to ANYBODY. Yup, thats right. Old people? If they would just hurry up and die already then they wouldn't need it. Pregnant? HOW pregnant? You better be breaking water and maybe you'll get my seat, but don't you dare get that stuff on my shoes. Missing limbs? Should have played safe. Broken bones? Should have played smarter, sucks to be you! Families? WTF are you doing having a family when you can't afford to drive!? This will be a good lesson in public humilation for your children, so they can feel your shame and grow up to be self-aggrandizing arrogant pukes just like me!

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by Pinner

It might be strange when and where or how you were raised, but for most of the men that grew up in Western Canada we would feel guilty if a woman fell or got hurt because we were a lazy punk ass that wouldn't offer our seat.

Ask your girlfriend if she would appreciate a man offering his seat to her, and ask her what the OP should have done in that situation.

In my opinion the OP is a disrespecting punk, and should be taught some manors the "old school" way. He said himself that he was pissed off at her.

What a punk.

[slow clap] You are quite the "man"! [/slow clap]

I was upset at the way the question was asked, and the presumption in her voice when she asked it. It was quite obvious that I had not been paying attention and was immersed in a book.

To call me a "disrespecting punk" is just ridiculous. By labeling me as such, with so little knowledge of what occurred and who I am, just proves how much of a disrespecting punk you actually are. Quit trying to prove how much of a nice person in hypothetical situations you are, and start acting like one right now.

I posted an honest question to get a read on what people thought of a situation that had occurred and seemed relevant since many of us take the train.

Edit: I would also thoroughly enjoy your manner teaching lessons. Seriously how lame are you that you act not only like the white knight on the internet, but also the tough guy.

[Traditional_Ale]

^ I love how a guy who's username is a form of joint is giving lectures about being a disrespecting punk.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Pinner

It might be strange when and where or how you were raised, but for most of the men that grew up in Western Canada we would feel guilty if a woman fell or got hurt because we were a lazy punk ass that wouldn't offer our seat.

Ask your girlfriend if she would appreciate a man offering his seat to her, and ask her what the OP should have done in that situation.

In my opinion the OP is a disrespecting punk, and should be taught some manors the "old school" way. He said himself that he was pissed off at her.

What a punk.

You couldn't be farther from the truth Pinner.

Since when do you get to make an autopsy of someone's character from an OP, which was openly worded and not judgemental, and make a generalization of how they are as a person?

Based on your last post, you seem like an ignorant redneck. And based on other posts, you also can't drive.

So therefore I can infer that you don't have above average intelligence, motor coordination or social skills. See what I did there?

Calling names at someone on an internet board is pointless, and shows ignorance, because really, you don't know the poster at all.

I've known anyonebutedmonton for probably 10-15 years now, and he certainly doesn't deserve that hogwash you typed.

/end rant.

[burn_this_city]

Sounds like we've got a lot of distinguished gentlemen in our midst. You know, the ones who fall over women to the point of hilarity. Constantly fawning over the "weaker" sex only to have them walk over you. Girls don't like being pandered to because of their sexual handicap. Might explains why you end up alone at the end of the night fapping to a sears catalogue.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Pinner

Smart people ride transit downtown for the 9-5 shift.

Sarcasm off...

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Pinner

It might be strange when and where or how you were raised, but for most of the men that grew up in Western Canada we would feel guilty if a woman fell or got hurt because we were a lazy punk ass that wouldn't offer our seat.

Why would I feel any worse for a woman getting hurt over a man? If someone got hurt on the train, I'd probably feel regardless of age, gender or sex.

Ask your girlfriend if she would appreciate a man offering his seat to her, and ask her what the OP should have done in that situation.

My wife would probably love it, hell ask any person who has to stand in the midst of smelly people during rush hour being dry humped by 3 or 4 people if they would rather sit or stand, they'll tell you they'd love to sit. I would.

In my opinion the OP is a disrespecting punk, and should be taught some manors the "old school" way. He said himself that he was pissed off at her.

What a punk.

You know what else is old school?
- Racism
- Sexism
- Standard Def TV
- Typewriters

Just because it's old school, doesn't make it awesome.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

hell ask any person who has to stand in the midst of smelly people during rush hour being dry humped by 3 or 4 people if they would rather sit or stand, they'll tell you they'd love to sit. I would.

Can you be a little bit more specific with "people"?

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Might explains why you end up alone at the end of the night fapping to a sears catalogue.

It was a JC Penny catalog and I was 11. LoL

Ask any 45 yr old guy how we were taught our manors when we were kids. We would get slapped up the side of our heads so fast it would make your head spin if we didn't notice that a lady needed our seat. That's a fact and it wasn't necessarily from our parents or Grandparents, any adult was allowed.

I wish I could go home alone man, I've only been single for about a year in the last 30 yrs.

When I was driving bus I wouldn't move the freaking bus until you let the lady sit down, that's how much things have changed in 20-25 yrs.

Ask your parents if it's acceptable to get mad at a 50 yr old lady that asks to sit down, f,ck my dad would drill me in the face with his fist.

[BurningYears]

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

That's pretty judgmental. Sometimes genes have a lot to do with how fat or skinny you are. Sometimes people have heart conditions or other difficulties that make exercise difficult. Just because someone is severely overweight doesn't mean they eat uncontrollably.

And i'll assume your "half ######ed" comment is a lame attempt at humour.

Genes or not, I do not see obesity as a disability and this is my own personal opinion.

I'm in shape, with bad knees. Do I expect someone to give me their seat? Nope. Do I need to wear a sign that reads "My knees have been sprained 6 times and hurt like a bitch - Give me your seat!"

I guess all i'm trying to say is that i've seen far too many obese people who expect other people to stand up and give them a seat for my liking I don't know how many times i've been asked by someone like that on Calgary transit in the past just because they're overweight.

I'm dumb enough to give them my seat too.. try going from downtown up steep ass bow trail in rush our with a million stops with bad knees.

Ugh, one big reason I have no problem driving 45 minutes in Phoenix is crap like this on Calgary transit.

Like I said, I am overall extremely courteous with this kind of stuff and have given up seats on flights/buses/trains at the expense of my own comfort for those that I believe deserve a more comfortable ride.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Pinner

It was a JC Penny catalog and I was 11. LoL

Ask any 45 yr old guy how we were taught our manors when we were kids. We would get slapped up the side of our heads so fast it would make your head spin if we didn't notice that a lady needed our seat. That's a fact and it wasn't necessarily from our parents or Grandparents, any adult was allowed.

I wish I could go home alone man, I've only been single for about a year in the last 30 yrs.

When I was driving bus I wouldn't move the freaking bus until you let the lady sit down, that's how much things have changed in 20-25 yrs.

Ask your parents if it's acceptable to get mad at a 50 yr old lady that asks to sit down, f,ck my dad would drill me in the face with his fist.

Ah ya, the good old days when you could not only beat your own kids in public, but someone else's as well. But hey, the ladies got to sit on the bus.