PGT: USA 5 - Canada 3

[kirant]

Originally Posted by flip

If Brodeur starts vs Germany the fans in GM Place will storm the bench and hang Babcock from the rafters. Seriously. It would be the appropriate action too.

I have spent the greater part after the game arguing with an American as to why I'm sure the crowd would have ripped apart the refs had there been no Glass. I guess it also keeps Babcock safe...

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Ro

Can anyone find a link that shows the following:

-What the seeds are (1-12)?
-Who plays in each time slot on Tues?
-Who plays in each time slot on Wed, pending outcomes?

I know things are completely decided yet (SWE/FIN pending), but I'm surprised this info is not out there.

Thank you!

I think CanadavGermany is in the 430 pacific time slot on tuesday no matter what

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Ro

Can anyone find a link that shows the following:

-What the seeds are (1-12)?
-Who plays in each time slot on Tues?
-Who plays in each time slot on Wed, pending outcomes?

I know things are completely decided yet (SWE/FIN pending), but I'm surprised this info is not out there.

Thank you!

It's still wide open because of that last game. We won't know until about midnight.

[zamler]

If Canada doesn't win Hockey Gold, I'm calling The Haitian to erase all traces of these Olympics from my memory.

[TowelPower]

Interesting stat to ponder.

Including tonight, Marty brodeurs record at GM place in his career is 6-11-0. A goals against of around 3 and save percentage around .860.

It's weird... whenever the devils would come to Vanouver, they always lit him up. One of those buildings for him.

Put that in contrast with Lu's record at GM place as a Canuck.

87-37-14 With a 2.17 GAA and a .922 save percentage.

Lu needs to start and play the tournament out.

[minnow]

Originally Posted by flip

I think we have a good enough line up. We just need to use it better. I also think the chemistry between the SJ is great but it doesn't automatically make them good.

This tournament is not lost. We just need a little more luck now.

Yeah, a little more luck. Where's Bobcock staying?

[Mad Mel]

Well, all I can say is that I hope 7uongo becomes Luongold.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by TowelPower

Interesting stat to ponder.

Including tonight, Marty brodeurs record at GM place in his career is 6-11-0. A goals against of around 3 and save percentage around .860.

It's weird... whenever the devils would come to Vanouver, they always lit him up. One of those buildings for him.

Except it isn't GM place...

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Ro

Can anyone find a link that shows the following:

-What the seeds are (1-12)?
-Who plays in each time slot on Tues?
-Who plays in each time slot on Wed, pending outcomes?

I know things are completely decided yet (SWE/FIN pending), but I'm surprised this info is not out there.

Thank you!

USA plays the noon game no matter who they play.
Canada plays the 4:30pm game no matter who they play.

Then the other two games are filled in.
I would think the #1 seed gets the late 9pm game, I can't see them sending the #1 seed to UBC!

[Rubicant]

This game makes me want to play San Jose in the playoffs.

Thornton is so pillowy soft, and if Heatley isn't scoring he's absolutely useless.

Nash - Crosby - Iginla (It works, so how about we keep it)
Marleau - Getzlaf - Perry
Heatley - Toews - Staal
Morrow - Richards - Bergeron

Thornton

[JayP]

Originally Posted by flip

Oh man, that was a bad goal. Brodeur shouldn't have even been in the net by then, he should have been pulled much earlier.

You could tell he didn't have it tonight when he pad-stacked for whatever reason on the second goal, but he after he lunged for that brutal poke check on the third goal there was just cause to pull him.

But I guess with a guy like Broduer even if you're going to take him out for the rest of the tournament you have to suck up the loss in a non-elimination game.

At the end of the day, we're not going to lose to Germany. And after that it's really irrelevant who we play in the quarterfinals. If it ends up being the Russians or the Swedes then so be it. We'll have to beat them to win the gold medal anyways so what's the difference if it's in the quarters or the semis/finals?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by moon

I don't think the Fins are bad or that I am underestimating them just stating that they haven't played anyone that talented so trotting out their big GA and GF numbers really isn't that impressive.

I did say that if they Sweden they would have been more impressive.

I know you aren't saying Finland is a bad team and point taken with the goal totals. Both Canada and Finland didn't play very remarkable teams until tonight.

I predict a win against the Swedes tonight, especially if Sweden can't stay out of the box. Hot goalies can do you in, and I pick Kipper over Lundqvist if it comes down to that.

[OILFAN #81]

NBC speculating that Luongo will be in net vs Germany.

Roenick says that Canada still has a really good chance to win this tournament.

[Geeoff]

I think Toews needs more ice time. He was way more dangerous than Thornton.

[KillerWhale]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ugh.


As far as the goaltending goes, can't say as I have confidence in either goalie at this point. Luongo has made a habit of choking in the big game, and Brodeur certainly has not shown he's able to carry the load either. Gonna be dicey from here on out.

Cute little reminder here.

Brodeur has also been bad in the big games recently (no, I'm not discounting that he has stanley cups). But most recently he has not been head and shoulder above Luongo. Neck and Neck is a more accurate description.

In the Games to date:

Luongo.

1-0-0-0
0.00 GAA
1.000 Save %

Brodeur

0-1-0-1
~ 3.00 GAA
~ .870 SV%

Experience, pedigree, or otherwise....Brodeur is failing. Luongo was solid. If the top two were Luongo and Fleury, and Luongo had this game... I'd be pulling for MAF to start. Marty's numbers at THIS level are unacceptable. That wouldn't get him anywhere in the playoffs, sure as hell shouldn't get him anywhere here.

Either way... I agree. Scary going forward... but forward they must go.

[OzSome]

It is easy to question Babcock on why he chose to start Brodeur instead of Luongo after the lost. I think it was the right move because he is supposed to be the starter when the team gets picked in December. Yes, he was a bit shaky against the Swiss during the regular time but he came through in OT. I am sure if Babcock knows Brodeur is going to suck tonight, he would have start Luongo BUT unfortunately noone knows, right? The only question is, should Babcock switch goalies after the 2nd period? I am not sure I would if I am the coach. They are just behind by 1 goal going into the third period. I would have question his decision on how he deploys the Ds. Pronger and Niedermayer were sucking in the first two periods and I thought Doughty and Keith outplayed both of them. Seabrook and Weber were not bad. Also, the other question I have is the 2nd power play for Canada in the 3rd period. The first one I don't question him on starting the Sharks line on PP because Crosby-Iggy-Nash line just got off before the PP. But we didn't see Nash or Iggy on the PP at all.
Babcock should stop experimenting his lines now. Canada is not playing the lowly Norway or Switzerland anymore. Crosby-Nash-Iggy seems to be the one working well, so as the energy line of Toews, Morrow and whoever he puts in there.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Roenick says that Canada still has a really good chance to win this tournament.

So Roenick thinks Babcock is going to get sick and end up bed ridden?

[Ro]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

It's still wide open because of that last game. We won't know until about midnight.

Is it though?

Are they just going to slot in the matchups as they see fit, for max. TV audiences? Or is it all predetermined?

In other words, is it 5vs12 at 1pm, 6vs11 at 430, etc etc, or is it something else?

[d_phaneuf]

Ya just checked, Canada vs Germany is in the 430 pacific spot on Tuesday, other matches are not set.

Latvia is #12
Germany is #11
Norway is #10
Belarus is #9
Switzerland is #8
Slovakia is #7
Canada is #6

So the matchups are Canada vs Germany, Slovakia vs Norway, Belarus vs Switzerland, Latvia vs either

Czech's if Sweden/Finland goes to OT or Sweden wins by more than 7
Sweden if Finland wins in regulation and Sweden does not score 4 goals or more.
Finland if Sweden wins by more than 7

thats my quick math, I know the first tie breaker is goal differential, I think the 2nd is goals scored and the Czechs have 10 to Sweden's 6. So if they tie on goal differential and goals scored I don't know the tiebreaker.

[minnow]

Originally Posted by jimFlames

This game really highlighted the gambles in Stevie Ys picks both positive and negative.

Doughty - outstanding scouting on this guy. I was shocked he was picked over Jaybo but I recant.

Bergeron - the chemistry wasn't there with Crosby and now he is incongruous other than the PK

Pronger - this guy is so slow wow.

Perry also made such a gaffe on that EN. WOW. Must give props to Miller because he was unreal. Wilson also outcoached Babcock - I mean come on why do you keep messing with a combo that works?!

Wasn't it Webber who lost the puck before Perry, at the line, and Webber's failure to get the puck out of our zone twice in one shift led to either the third or fourth goal. He sucked tonight too. That kind of suckage is scary bad.