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Old 10-05-2011, 02:52 PM   #181
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I really don't care for your attitude. If you can't make your point without insults, then don't bother.
With the rhetoric you've thrown around it's rather comical to see you call someone out for their attitude.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:55 PM   #182
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With the rhetoric you've thrown around it's rather comical to see you call someone out for their attitude.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:06 PM   #183
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Knox did it, and whats more, she's a cold bitch.
You pretty much set the tone for your involvement in this thread with your first post.
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:19 PM   #184
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:34 PM   #185
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That is nothing to do with your post about me.

Nothing at all.

It was my view at the time - and was posted months ago and based on what turns out to be flawed evidence.

You cannot find anything in the current discussion that equates to the post I mentioned and for which you decided to have a go at me.
N/M, not worth it

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Old 10-05-2011, 05:33 PM   #186
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I think this is relevant. Not because I want to vilify the police, rather that it goes over several ways the police can manipulate what you say. It gives insight in what how inconsistencies can be found in even an innocent person's story.

This is a really good video. Was going to watch just a bit but once I got into it watched the entire thing.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:10 PM   #187
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I'm not sure if this came up, but in the retrial was the 'staged break-in' also found not to have been staged?
There was no staged break in - the prosecution for some reason in Italy can make statements like this, as if they are true. As you have heard in many posts here, they were innocent, the entire crime was committed during a break-in. They caught this person, but they only caught him after they over committed to jailing Knox (DNA testing determined Guede was the killer). In order to cover up their overzealous interrogation, they threw out the video. The real murderer (Guede) had his conviction decreased because he withdrew earlier statements that Knox had nothing to do with the crime, instead he said she was a part of it and his sentence was dropped in half. Guede initially said that he had consensual sex with the victim and during a bathroom break she was murdered by whoever broke in. He got scared and left the country. Unfortunately for Knox this confession did not fit in with the story the prosecutor thought up, so Guede had a bargaining chip, confess to the made up story that implicates two other people and get out of jail sooner.

The prosecutor is well known to create crazy court cases of stories he imagines, and then picks little details to fit his story. The story in this case involved violent sex, thus Guede needed some more partners for the crime to be committed.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:11 PM   #188
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I know this thread is fairly old news now but this entire case has interested me greatly. If now one took the time to read the friends of amanda site and the articles by Steve Moore this video segment is a very simple explanation of the eveidence. I feel ashamed that I once thought she could have commited the crime.


Sorry didn't get the video tag correct I will try again in next post
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:14 PM   #189
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Please watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx_77GTtDew

and second part

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSf4KWHvOEo
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I feel bad for the Kercher family but I hope they soon come to realize that the murderer is in jail and Amanda/Raffaele didn't have nothing to do with this.
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Big bump... But it looks like things aren't over for Foxy Knoxy.

The Kercher family was successful in having the acquittal overturned and a new trial was ordered. Amanda Knox does not have to show-up, but if she is convicted in absence, Italy will likely seek to have the U.S. extradite her.

I can see the U.S. chosing not to comply though.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...now-italy.html
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:44 AM   #192
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I don't think anyone can truly say whether she was involved, but this is a bit of a joke. Found guilty, successfully appealed, then her appeal is successfully appealed. So if she is found guilty again, can she appeal?

If the US and Washington State refuse to send her over (and they wont send her), would she be susceptible to bounty hunters should she ever decide to set foot in Europe again?
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:50 AM   #193
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The Italian justice system is so corrupt. I can't believe they're trying to go after her again.

But I can't say I'm surprised. The prosecution wants to save face after the appeal ordeal.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:52 AM   #194
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This thing is never going to end it seems. Nancy Grace must be psyched though to get a chance to rehash this again.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #195
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Going off of some of the stuff that I heard this morning

The prosecution challenged the testing sequence of the DNA evidence and was successful on that.

The Judge felt that there was noway that the one person that is still sitting in jail could have acted alone.

In a legal sense there is a ground for appeal under their system, however at some point the system needs to cut their losses and move on.

I'm not saying that she's innocent and I'm not saying that she's guilty, I understand what the family is going through, I have a feeling that they think that Knox got off due more to procedure and failings of the system then innocence.

But its pretty pointless, I doubt that the U.S. government would extradite her on request
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:31 AM   #196
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Going off of some of the stuff that I heard this morning

The prosecution challenged the testing sequence of the DNA evidence and was successful on that.

The Judge felt that there was noway that the one person that is still sitting in jail could have acted alone.

In a legal sense there is a ground for appeal under their system, however at some point the system needs to cut their losses and move on.

I'm not saying that she's innocent and I'm not saying that she's guilty, I understand what the family is going through, I have a feeling that they think that Knox got off due more to procedure and failings of the system then innocence.

But its pretty pointless, I doubt that the U.S. government would extradite her on request
People would lose their #### if they did, I can't see it happening.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #197
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People would lose their #### if they did, I can't see it happening.
You never really know with governments do you?

I could sit here and say they'll never extradite her, but international standings and relations when combined with what actually happens in this trial and what the government over there would supply to the American's in terms of proof of guilt could change that equation in a hurry.
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The US should file a complaint on this ######ed ruling

All this means is she won't ever visit that dirty scumy country ever...not that she would have anyway.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:03 PM   #199
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CNN will have a special on the case and what's happening now, this Friday. It'll probably have clips of their interview with the lead prosecutor. What a slime ball.
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I would say that anyone that watches the full 2 hour video posted above a couple of years ago and doesn't think she had nothing to do with this isn't operating with a full deck.
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