MLB Playoff Thread!

[habernac]

Holliday gets picked at first by Papelbon to end the eighth. The Rockies are in big trouble now.

[Marv]

if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, eh Marv?

I call coming back from 3-0 to upset the Yankees and win the World Series "beating them", thanks very much.

At any rate, I'm not one of those fans who runs around wringing their hands because certain teams spend money to win. I have nothing against the Yaknees for doing it, I think teams like Boston are fine to do it themselves. The difference is NY did it willynilly without consideration for the actual structure of their team and it's blown up in their face. Boston's spent their money wisely to build a champion (Dice-K's contract aside, but I think we'll see that work out in the long run) and it's on display right now. All teams work toward building a winner. Take a look at the Flames, there's only 4 guys in the lineup who were actually drafted, everyone else is acquired by trades or free agency.

Now, I understand you're not a BoSox fan, habernac, and that's cool. I don't give a frog's fart if you like them or not - but you can't deny they are the best team in baseball right now. So if you want to be a hater, go right ahead, but don't trash them for doing the one thing every sports team tries to achieve - building a winning team.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Marv

At any rate, I'm not one of those fans who runs around wringing their hands because certain teams spend money to win. I have nothing against the Yaknees for doing it, I think teams like Boston are fine to do it themselves. The difference is NY did it willynilly without consideration for the actual structure of their team and it's blown up in their face. Boston's spent their money wisely to build a champion (Dice-K's contract aside, but I think we'll see that work out in the long run)

They spent their money just as poorly as the Yankees, they have just done a better job of spending more money to fix those mistakes. There have been plenty of moves that have blown up in Bostons face.

I have no problem with either team doing it so long as they don't act like the other team is evil for doing the same thing.

Hearing the Red Sox bitch and moan about the Rodriguez trade as being unfair because the Rangers preferred the Yankees offer over the Red Sox was laughable at best.

It looks like the Red Sox will be the best this year. Congrats. Enjoy the win, but do your best to convince the many other Red Sox fans that the Sox are just as evil when it comes to throwing money around as they all accuse the Yankees of being.

Also GO ROCKIES GO!

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Marv

I call coming back from 3-0 to upset the Yankees and win the World Series "beating them", thanks very much.

Gag.

Originally Posted by Marv

The difference is NY did it willynilly without consideration for the actual structure of their team and it's blown up in their face. Boston's spent their money wisely to build a champion (Dice-K's contract aside, but I think we'll see that work out in the long run) and it's on display right now.

I think youre forgetting that the Red Sox missed the playoffs last year, 11 game back of the Yankees and that the Yankees havent missed the playoffs since 1995. The Yankees havent had a World Series since 2001, but theyve been in the race every year.

I hate the Yankees, but what I hate more is Red Sox fans hating on the Yankees for spending money while doing it themselves and some how arguing that because you won in 2004, youre a better run organization. Please.

The BoSox run in 2004 was magical and this year is only slightly less spectacular. They have a unique blend of talent and chemistry and Ive never seen any team actually comfortable down 3-1 in a series. But dont try to get on a moral high ground on the Yankees - Red Sox nation is an evil empire too... they just havent had as much success at it and are still living in denial about it.

[habernac]

I've got no problem with them building a winning team. It's just an absolute joke that they have to spend so much to do it. Let's hope Selig gets the boot and they get a real commish that'll put a salary cap in, then we'll see how well the Wankees and the Sox do. Yes, Boston is winning 2 games to none. But the Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Rockies.

[habernac]

Anyways, a very well pitched game for the most part last night (though Jiminez was throwing some crazy stuff). Schilling got the job done, Okajima was terrific and Papelbon is unhittable. And the Rockies offense has been MIA since before the NLCS.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by habernac

I've got no problem with them building a winning team. It's just an absolute joke that they have to spend so much to do it. Let's hope Selig gets the boot and they get a real commish that'll put a salary cap in, then we'll see how well the Wankees and the Sox do. Yes, Boston is winning 2 games to none. But the Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Rockies.

Gord Miller made a good point when he said Baseball would benefit a lot if they could put a limit on entry level contracts and revise their draft rules. Right now teams like the Yankees and Red Sox can get players like Joba Chamberlain, Jacoby Ellsbury, and Jonathan Papelbon because other teams can't afford to sign them. These guys weren't secrets or great finds...they were simply Boras clients who demand 16 million dollars to sign and to be on the 40 man roster from day one. So teams like the Royals have to pass them over in favor of a player they can sign. Put in draft rules that would allow the best players to go to teams with the top picks and that might help level the competitive balance.

[Dion]

CBS4 investigator Rick Sallinger used a hidden camera to see just how far scalpers were willing to go. He went there originally to get a refund for the only three tickets he was able to get -- for a playoff game that never happened due to the Rockies' sweep.

One man offered Sallinger $1,400 for the tickets, not realizing they weren't for the World Series. He held onto them and came back to demonstrate how crazy it's gotten in LoDo.

Wearing a disguise and using the hidden camera, it didn't take long for Sallinger to be approached. He was approached by a man who was carrying $10,000 cash. The man didn't seem concerned about getting robbed. Sallinger asked if the money was real.

"All my money's real. Look at that, look at that. You can hold it," the man said. "You want to take $1,000 from me? Here you go."

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/loc...298221308.html

[CrusaderPi]

Dice-K knocks in two with a base hit in the 3rd making it 5-0.

Rockies are a gentle breeze away from losing. Tomorrows forecast for Denver? A gentle breeze.

As I type, its 6-0 (Dice-K went first to third like a pro).

[Clever_Iggy]

Unreal. Just domination by the Red Sox. I thought when they let go of the likes of Millar they were losing a lot of the intangible characteristics that made this team successful. Obviously, they have lots of that left.

[Marv]

For the haters keeping score, that's Bosox 3-0...

[Dion]

One more to go for the Red Sox!

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by habernac

I've got no problem with them building a winning team. It's just an absolute joke that they have to spend so much to do it. Let's hope Selig gets the boot and they get a real commish that'll put a salary cap in, then we'll see how well the Wankees and the Sox do. Yes, Boston is winning 2 games to none. But the Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Rockies.

Are you sure a salary cap solves anything? Aren't the Patriots and Colts running the table? Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Indians and nearly lost to them. Yankees won't win another World Series this decade even with their 200 millions.

[habernac]

the Pats and Colts do it through good management. Level the playing field in baseball and we'll see how dominant the Yanks and Sox can be.

[moon]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Are you sure a salary cap solves anything? Aren't the Patriots and Colts running the table? Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Indians and nearly lost to them. Yankees won't win another World Series this decade even with their 200 millions.

Indy is a perfect example of why the salary cap (and revenue sharing) works. There is no way they would be able to compete finacially with the Cowboys, Redskins or NY teams. The rich teams have all struggled because it isn't about how much money you can spend but how you spend it.

The Patriots and Colts are running the table because they are the best at identifying talent, figuring out how to use that money wisely and not overspending to fill needs.

To me it isn't so much that the richest team didn't win it is that the teams like the Royals, Pirates, TB etc. who are the poorest teams can't even compete. Their seasons are basically over before the first game is played.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by moon

To me it isn't so much that the richest team didn't win it is that the teams like the Royals, Pirates, TB etc. who are the poorest teams can't even compete. Their seasons are basically over before the first game is played.

And it doesn't even matter if they draft well. The Royals, for example, have consistantly provided the league with all-star caliber players that they drafted and couldn't afford to keep. Carlos Beltran being the most recent and significant example I can think of.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

And it doesn't even matter if they draft well. The Royals, for example, have consistantly provided the league with all-star caliber players that they drafted and couldn't afford to keep. Carlos Beltran being the most recent and significant example I can think of.

yep, it's hard to take MLB seriously and follow it with any passion. It's a rigged league.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Are you sure a salary cap solves anything? Aren't the Patriots and Colts running the table? Red Sox payroll is also $90 million more than the Indians and nearly lost to them. Yankees won't win another World Series this decade even with their 200 millions.

Yeah, every year another couple of teams build a good one, but they can't keep it. But teams like Yankees and Boston are in contention every year.

[DAN0383]

Mike Lowell with a solo blast!

[CrusaderPi]

Fricken Boras. Fricken ARod. They should be embarrassed for that. Announcing an opt out during the last innings of the last game of the World Series. Embarrassing.