12-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ernie
No more impressed than an HD-DVD running through a Bravia.....
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This is true.. Although there's just so much more content on Blu-Ray that it's insane. I got a PS3 recently, and am loving how many more movies there are than when I was just an HD-DVD owner.
Anyway, I just got the Blu-Ray of the BBC Documentary Planet Earth and it's absolutely mindblowing, it's out on both formats. So if you're into Nature Doc's that are extremely well done, you should pick it up!
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12-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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#182
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ernie
No more impressed than an HD-DVD running through a Bravia.....
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Ok. tell me how that hd dvd looks at the Sony store?
But yes if you goto someone's house with a Sony Bravia and Toshiba A5 I'm sure it would be impressive too.
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12-08-2007, 02:11 AM
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#183
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Looks like the end of the war is near, by January at the CES.Warner might be going Blu Ray exclusive.
http://www.tvpredictions.com/business120707.htm
According to Michael Burns, vice chairman of Lionsgate Studios, "The rumor is that Warner is coming aboard soon. That will make it awfully tough for HD-DVD to stay in this game."
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12-08-2007, 02:34 AM
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#184
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Lifetime Suspension
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
whoever wins. we all lose in the end.
Bring on HD DLC 
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12-08-2007, 01:02 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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There won't be a difference between the visual quality of HD-DVD vs Blu-ray - the both use the same codecs (H.264, MPEG4 AVC, MPEG2, VC-1). There can be some differences in audio (HD-DVD spec has required some additional HD codec support), but if you are noticing a difference between HD-DVD and Blu ray then you are noticing differences in either the source material or in the quality of the post-processing circuitry in the player.
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01-04-2008, 02:23 PM
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#186
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Warner goes Blu-Ray exclusive starting in May 2008. Is this the end of HD-DVD? Or will it matter since by the time it dies out, we will all be downloading movies....
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/04...ray-exclusive/
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01-04-2008, 02:52 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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I just have a strong distaste for Sony backed formats.
I don't have either format yet, I think this may drag on long enough that something else may supplant them. Perhaps downloads, but that is an awful lot of bandwidth. Neither has really put a dent in regular DVDs yet. Until that happens I don't think a winner can be declared.
I wish I knew more about the compression algorithms used. If a new compression method came along then perhaps downloading would be possible, or movies could be on smaller disks (or other formats - cartridges, SD cards, thumb drives, some sort of a bluetooth container you sit on the TV and it transfers). Tech is changing faster than ever - a war that drags on may well find a winner that has already been passed by.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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01-04-2008, 03:42 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Neither has really put a dent in regular DVDs yet. Until that happens I don't think a winner can be declared.
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I would say that neither will put a dent into DVDs until a winner a declared.
Blu-ray and HD-DVD players are simply too expensive at this point to warrant the purchase of a format could be dead very, very soon. As soon as the winner emerges then sales will start to rise quickly.
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01-04-2008, 04:04 PM
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#189
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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as a ps3 owner this news makes me happy. My bluray collection is slowly growing and I really don't want to have to buy a whole new player in a couple years.
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01-04-2008, 04:47 PM
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#190
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by JayP
I would say that neither will put a dent into DVDs until a winner a declared.
Blu-ray and HD-DVD players are simply too expensive at this point to warrant the purchase of a format could be dead very, very soon. As soon as the winner emerges then sales will start to rise quickly.
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Are Blu-ray and HD-DVD players really that expensive? From what I can see, it seems decently priced right now at around 500. I remember paying almost 1,000 for my first DVD player when it came out.
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01-04-2008, 04:58 PM
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#191
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Are Blu-ray and HD-DVD players really that expensive? From what I can see, it seems decently priced right now at around 500. I remember paying almost 1,000 for my first DVD player when it came out.
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Early adopters will pay, but Bob and Betty Suburbs will need a much better price point, especially when their $50 DVD player still looks really good.
The difference between a VCR and a DVD was huge. It was obvious about the difference, and how easy it was to use (just like their CD players!). But for the average person still using their regular CRT TV, the benefit of the HD source just isn't as apparent as the previous tech jump was.
Perhaps once the US drops analog signals and everyone needs set top boxes to make their older TVs work, that will convince more to upgrade to a tv set where they will realize the difference.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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01-04-2008, 06:37 PM
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#192
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Was just at Blockbuster and just out of curiosity had a look at the Blu-ray/ HD-DVD section - only 38 titles in stock total for Blu-ray, 26 for HD-DVD.
Until those numbers come up significantly I just don't see myself buying one.
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01-04-2008, 07:00 PM
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#193
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayP
I would say that neither will put a dent into DVDs until a winner a declared.
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Actually seems it was the other way around, DVD sales were really starting to be hurt because of the war:
http://gizmodo.com/340956/interview-...e-with-blu+ray
With this I think you'll see an all out bloodbath in terms of price, HD-DVD players for under $100 maybe. That's probably the only way HD-DVD can drag this out is to make their price so compelling and get so many units out there that they beat BD that way.
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01-04-2008, 11:26 PM
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#195
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Whoops didn't know there was a sub form. hehe.
I wonder if Paramount/Universal since they got paid 150 million to go hd dvd exclusive would lose more then $150million in profits? It is suppose to go until the end of 2008.
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01-04-2008, 11:40 PM
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#196
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by photon
Actually seems it was the other way around, DVD sales were really starting to be hurt because of the war:
http://gizmodo.com/340956/interview-...e-with-blu+ray
With this I think you'll see an all out bloodbath in terms of price, HD-DVD players for under $100 maybe. That's probably the only way HD-DVD can drag this out is to make their price so compelling and get so many units out there that they beat BD that way. |
I guess the $100 HD dvd players didn't even help during Christmas.
"One of the things you see in the NPD data for this fourth quarter was that even with a $100 [price] premium, Blu-ray set tops outsold HD set tops in December. Even with Toshiba having the lowest-cost player in the market, software sales remained 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray."
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents
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01-05-2008, 12:05 AM
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#197
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kobatuzzied
I guess the $100 HD dvd players didn't even help during Christmas.
"One of the things you see in the NPD data for this fourth quarter was that even with a $100 [price] premium, Blu-ray set tops outsold HD set tops in December. Even with Toshiba having the lowest-cost player in the market, software sales remained 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray."
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Well Blu-ray dropped their prices big time.
There were samsung blu-ray players at Futureshop for 229 around boxing day. That is a pretty reasonable price considering lame-ass upconverting DVD players are retailing at 129.
also, i have a very very strong feeling next year's electronic "it" gift will be blu-ray/hddvd players and movies. You know how every year something seems to drop big time and all the electronic stores push it (last year it was satellite radio, this year it was GPS). This is when i plan on picking one up.
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Last edited by corporatejay; 01-05-2008 at 12:08 AM.
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01-05-2008, 01:33 AM
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#198
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'm dual format, but give me my Matrix Trilogy in Blu-Ray now! I've been waiting for this announcement.
The only reason I still have my 360 HD-DVD addon right now is for Transformers.. The rest I plan on selling.
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01-05-2008, 03:15 AM
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#199
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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That's the problem with pricing lower to attract early adopters...lower pricing psychologically in the consumer's eye means inferior product.
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01-05-2008, 01:54 PM
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#200
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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It was all about backroom deals and had nothing to do with which was selling better. It is coming out that both Fox and Warner were very close to going HD DVD exclusively as recently as a few days ago. Then the Blu-ray group offered Fox money to stay, and Warner wouldn't go to HD-DVD without Fox. I guess this format war is over now.
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