Who is winning the election?

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan+Nov 2 2004, 11:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KootenayFlamesFan @ Nov 2 2004, 11:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 12:24 AM

Because I am Catholic and the bible is against homosexuals

Ahhhhhhh.........the good ole bible. What a nice story book.............

GQ, do you follow 100% of the bible, or just the parts that suit you? [/b][/quote]
Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by moon@Nov 3 2004, 06:30 AM
I still don't see how I don't like it is not a good answer.

Moon...I don't mean this to be attacking or personal or anything, so please don't take it that way.

But, I don't know, I just find the "well just because" type of argument an easy way out. You don't have to defend, you don't have to list arguments or reasons or whatever. Its just easy to say "I don't like it"...instead of "I don't like it because...".

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by stuckinchuck+Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (stuckinchuck @ Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Nov 2 2004, 11:30 PM
I still don't see how I don't like it is not a good answer.

It has no reasoning. Like saying I don't like ethnicities. [/b][/quote]
Exactly, just saing "I don't like it" isn't a reason at all.

You don't like gay marriage because.. you don't like it. Well, fantastic.

[moon]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan+Nov 2 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KootenayFlamesFan @ Nov 2 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moon@Nov 3 2004, 12:30 AM
I still don't see how I don't like it is not a good answer.

Because you want to stop other human beings from enjoying the same rights heterosexuals have.

It makes zero sense. [/b][/quote]
I have no problem with that though.

It does make sense to me.

[calf]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 12:29 AM
I never said that. I said the reason why I'm against it is because I am catholic. If I wasn't then maybe I wouldn't be. But since I am, I will vote against it every chance I get

I gotta ask: should Hindus be allowed to get married? Or Buddists? If there was a vote saying should these people be allowed to practice their religion, how would you vote?

Let me remind you that Commandment #1 says Thou shalt not worship another God (or something to that effect, no?)

[Daradon]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Ahhhhhhh.........the good ole bible. What a nice story book.............

GQ, do you follow 100% of the bible, or just the parts that suit you?

Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule [/b][/quote]
So following the rules for yourself is hard, but enforcing them on others is easy?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Ahhhhhhh.........the good ole bible. What a nice story book.............

GQ, do you follow 100% of the bible, or just the parts that suit you?

Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule [/b][/quote]
That is one of the lamest things I have ever read in my life.

Thank goodness I am not religious.

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 06:31 AM

Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule

Ahhh....

So then, its only the rules that you say should be enforced and not doing yourself?

So if there was up for a debate a legal law banning pre-marital sex, then you would be against that, even though it is in the bible??

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM
Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule

Thank you for summing up what is wrong with the church and its followers perfectly. Picking and choosing what to follow. Praise the lord!!! (sometimes)

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Nov 2 2004, 11:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Nov 2 2004, 11:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 12:29 AM
I never said that. I said the reason why I'm against it is because I am catholic. If I wasn't then maybe I wouldn't be. But since I am, I will vote against it every chance I get

Dumbest thing I have ever heard. So damn stupid. People have asked you why YOU are against gay marriage, not your church. Try thinking for yourself. [/b][/quote]
With all your pro-gay talk, why dont' we allow any two individuals who love each other to get married.

A brother should be able to marry his sister if they're in love
A brother should be able to marry his twin brother if they're in love
A mother should be able to marry her son if they're in love
A mother should be able to marry her daughter if they're in love
A father should be able to marry his grandmother if they're in love

None of these "unions" affect you, so if it ever came to a vote, then I am assuming you would vote for insest marriages right?

[Pagal4321]

The way this thread is going CAN NOT turn out good......I would suggest we just respect other people's opinions about the topic and move on?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by Daradon@Nov 3 2004, 12:33 AM
So following the rules for yourself is hard, but enforcing them on others is easy?

Well said man, well said. AlbertGQ is basically saying "Well I don't follow the rules, but you should you big ######"

[moon]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Nov 2 2004, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Nov 2 2004, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

It has no reasoning. Like saying I don't like ethnicities.

Exactly, just saing "I don't like it" isn't a reason at all.

You don't like gay marriage because.. you don't like it. Well, fantastic. [/b][/quote]
Actually it only has to make sense for me and only I have to feel as though it is a good enough reason based on the fact that it is my opinion.

I am not running any sort of campaign saying that it should be outlawed. I am not trying to convince anyone else into believing my opinion. So I don't really care if you don't like my reasoning. I was just answering a question that someone had raised about the voting agaisnt the Gay Marriage legislation.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by Pagal4321@Nov 3 2004, 12:36 AM
The way this thread is going CAN NOT turn out good......I would suggest we just respect other people's opinions about the topic and move on?

No thanks, everyone is being pretty civil about it.

[Moderator]

Hi again. Moderator guy here.

Keep the debate civil.

Thanks

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 06:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 06:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Dumbest thing I have ever heard. So damn stupid. People have asked you why YOU are against gay marriage, not your church. Try thinking for yourself.

With all your pro-gay talk, why dont' we allow any two individuals who love each other to get married.

A brother should be able to marry his sister if they're in love
A brother should be able to marry his twin brother if they're in love
A mother should be able to marry her son if they're in love
A mother should be able to marry her daughter if they're in love
A father should be able to marry his grandmother if they're in love

None of these "unions" affect you, so if it ever came to a vote, then I am assuming you would vote for insest marriages right? [/b][/quote]
BUT...

You still haven't answered our question.

Why is it ok for you to say no to gay marriages because it says so in the bible, but you wouldn't say no to premarital sex (even though it says that in the bible too)?

Sorry, but this just well confuses me. Isn't there a wee bit of a contradiction there?

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Nov 2 2004, 11:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Nov 2 2004, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 12:31 AM
Of course not 100%. That is impossible. Mostly I follow it as much as I can. I am human so the ones that are too hard for me to follow I do not. Sometimes temptation is too strong for me. Being against homosexuals is not a hard one for me. so that is why I am against it. Premarital sex is hard to avoid, so I don't even bother trying to follow that rule

Thank you for summing up what is wrong with the church and its followers perfectly. Picking and choosing what to follow. Praise the lord!!! (sometimes) [/b][/quote]
All religions are like that. Not just the Catholic church

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by moon@Nov 3 2004, 12:36 AM
Actually it only has to make sense for me and only I have to feel as though it is a good enough reason based on the fact that it is my opinion.

How can it make sence for you though, you don't even know why you are against it?

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 06:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Thank you for summing up what is wrong with the church and its followers perfectly. Picking and choosing what to follow. Praise the lord!!! (sometimes)

All religions are like that. Not just the Catholic church [/b][/quote]
So that makes it acceptable then to choose the Catholic rules to follow?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 12:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 12:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Thank you for summing up what is wrong with the church and its followers perfectly. Picking and choosing what to follow. Praise the lord!!! (sometimes)

All religions are like that. Not just the Catholic church [/b][/quote]
GQ.........we agree.

ALL religions are messed up.

Thank you.