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Old 11-08-2025, 12:22 PM   #181
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I don't think Stromgren is getting a call up, and probably not getting another contract. After Hunt Morton Gridin Kerins he is maybe the Wranglers 5th best forward. I would like to see Kerins but he seems to be falling into the "Phillips" pigeonhole with this organization. I think most likely to get called up at all is still Hunt or Morton if they become unhappy with Kirkland.
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Old 11-08-2025, 12:39 PM   #182
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I don't think Stromgren is getting a call up, and probably not getting another contract. After Hunt Morton Gridin Kerins he is maybe the Wranglers 5th best forward. I would like to see Kerins but he seems to be falling into the "Phillips" pigeonhole with this organization. I think most likely to get called up at all is still Hunt or Morton if they become unhappy with Kirkland.
I imagine he gets a contract over Morton if they are worried about space as he is a full 4 years younger

In terms of a call up it depends how many people we trade and how healthy we stay. If we pack it in NHL guys won’t be playing through anything
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Old 11-08-2025, 12:45 PM   #183
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Why hasn't Morton got a real stint yet?
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Old 11-08-2025, 12:55 PM   #184
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Explain to me then, exactly which times did the Flames have a good culture and which times did they not have a good culture? And if you think they have a good culture now, how do they upgrade their talent and become a contender without endangering the culture?
They had a great culture in '03-04, and parlayed that into a run to the SCF with only one star forward and a killer goalie. A lot of the players who made that work left during the lockout or were traded.

After Sutter stepped down as coach to become full-time GM, the culture simply rotted. Coaches didn't get respect, offensive players wanted to do their thing without paying attention to defence, defensive players resented having to carry the load alone. Nobody really bought into being part of a 5-man attack and a 5-man defence every shift.

When Giordano and Backlund emerged as leaders and mentors in the last rebuild, the culture improved. The team had a string of coaches who understood the value of those two players (and a few others who came and went) as mentors, and routinely put them on the ice with promising rookies to give them live experience of the little things they needed to do to make their skills effective at the NHL level. The most obvious beneficiary of this was Tkachuk, but there were others.

That culture went into a decline when Tkachuk, Gaudreau, and Monahan left, and took another hit with the loss of Tanev. There really isn't a defenceman left who can play the role with young D that Giordano and then Tanev used to; Weegar is the only one who comes close. Backlund is still there and still effective. Kadri sets a good example, but he tends to play a lone game and doesn't involve his linemates in it the way Backlund does. Huberdeau, I don't know about; I think his game is just too clever for untalented linemates. At least his attitude is good.

Nobody wants to keep all the veterans around for the culture. But you have to keep some. My choice would be to keep Backlund, Coleman, and Weegar, one highly effective player and good communicator at each position. The others can go when teams actually start making trades and there's a market for them, which will probably be after Christmas.

I don't give a damn if the players are unhappy at this point. With a record like that, they shouldn't be happy. Losing is not supposed to be fun. If you can lose without getting frustrated, it shows that you weren't really trying to win, and that is a sign of a busted culture. You should never lose through lack of effort, and that effort should be intelligently directed into the repeatable things that help a team win.
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Old 11-08-2025, 01:47 PM   #185
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We are so back! (in the tank)
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:04 PM   #186
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Brett Sutter hockey was pure chaos. I dunno I never felt the Flames were ever in control when gluegun coached.
He pioneered the 5-Dman powerplay!! What more do you want from the man?!?! Blood??
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:06 PM   #187
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Sad game. Lost Parekh. Wolf hung out to dry. Lost all the fights. Kadri turned away from fighting Foligo, leaving it to Hanley.
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:08 PM   #188
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After a rough start to the season, the Wranglers have turned things around in the last couple of weeks. I think it's far too early to judge Brett Sutter as a coach at all.
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:20 PM   #189
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Brett Sutter hockey was pure chaos. I dunno I never felt the Flames were ever in control when gluegun coached.
Yes, but Gluegun had the best stick toss ever. Credit where credit is due.
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:22 PM   #190
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I was only able to watch the first two periods last night and the game was back and forth. Obviously the roof fell in during the third.
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:31 PM   #191
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Brett Sutter hockey was pure chaos. I dunno I never felt the Flames were ever in control when gluegun coached.
Do you mean Brent?
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:55 PM   #192
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Sad game. Lost Parekh. Wolf hung out to dry. Lost all the fights. Kadri turned away from fighting Foligo, leaving it to Hanley.
Players shouldn't be forced to fight after clean hits anyway. We don't need to apply the Kassian code here.
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I gotta give kudos to Honzek, he's looking more & more comfortable with each game. Feels like with all the doom & gloom going on around pretty much everything else his positive season is going unnoticed at times.
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Do you mean Brent?
Sure, whatever. I'm sure there's a Brett Sutter in there somewhere.
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Old 11-08-2025, 03:27 PM   #195
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Sure, whatever. I'm sure there's a Brett Sutter in there somewhere.
Yep, he's Darryl's son. Played for the Flames briefly and retired with the Wranglers after 1000+ AHL games. He's the Wranglers head coach now.

And to your point, Brent was the coach for the Flames when Brett played anyways so really it's all the same anyways.
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And your dumb ass cut him from the opening roster despite out-performing most of the other hopefuls at D. Great evaluative decision making. At least we got here eventually.
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Old 11-08-2025, 04:11 PM   #199
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Don’t even need the glut of picks from a fire sale (nor are you likely to get a glut of picks if you perform a fire sale).

Hopefully they regroup and win on Sunday.
The Flames already have one extra pick in the next two drafts. If they were to trade Kadri, Coleman and Andersson it's pretty safe to assume they would get at least one extra pick from each of those trades. At least.

That would give them a "glut" of picks, or an excessively abundant supply.

Jesus, the things some people will choose to argue about, lol
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and Weegar called out half the team when 5 of the worst 7 skaters were:

Weegar, Andersson, Coleman, Kadri and Backlund.

"Leadership"

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