[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by activeStick

No idea what number he's asking for, but if it's 3 or less, I don't think that's crazy. I understand that he was out for the majority of his last contract, so didn't get a chance to show he's improved, but I do see his side of it and asking for a slight raise simply because it's a new contract. 2 years instead of 1 also makes a ton of sense for him. As for the Flames, a bit surprised they don't want to go for more than a year given their current state, but maybe for the organization, their current state doesn't matter, which is understandable.

Honest question, why would the Flames offer more than one year? It's only going to take one year to know what Kylington is so if he's great then he can get a raise the year after. Handing him 2 years is just bad management. Pretty much a free 3 million if he has a bad year next year.

He can prove he's going to take a step next season but giving him an extra year just because we have cap space sounds like something treliving would do.

[The Yen Man]

I think a one year show me contract is fair from Calgary's standpoint. Take the mental health thing out of the picture and judge him for his on ice performance after his teturn. What has he shown the last half of the season that makes you think he warrants a raise and a two year extension?

[Flamesfan05]

I don’t know who would give Kylington more than 2.5M for more than 2 years.

Treliving?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He’s no-more at risk of it than any other player.

You think the cost of insuring his contract would be the same as for any other player making the same amount?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He’s no-more at risk of it than any other player.

He’s absolutely more at risk - since it’s happened before

Don’t be obtuse and pretend mental health issues aren’t more likely to repeat in individuals that have had issues before

[Stampede2TheCup]

I think it’s too early to be upset or call him disloyal until he signs elsewhere.

[D as in David]

A long time ago I seem to recall reading that teams can (or do) insure only a small # of contracts. Can anyone confirm this?

[Ped]

I thought most contracts weren't insured anyway. Only the big ones.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ped

I thought most contracts weren't insured anyway. Only the big ones.

Pretty much. I think a team can insure any contract they want, but it's not cheap so they just pick the most expensive. Kylington would probably be considered high risk by an insurer and the cost of the insurance probably not worth it.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

He’s absolutely more at risk - since it’s happened before

Don’t be obtuse and pretend mental health issues aren’t more likely to repeat in individuals that have had issues before

Absolutely this, especially twice with the same individual (remember the brief stint he came back for a training camp) at this point. It would be incredibly believable if he wasn’t able to play hockey for a 3rd time in his career.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

He’s absolutely more at risk - since it’s happened before

Don’t be obtuse and pretend mental health issues aren’t more likely to repeat in individuals that have had issues before

Or any injury or ailment. There's a reason insurance premiums aren't uniform.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Or any injury or ailment. There's a reason insurance premiums aren't uniform.

Sure - I wouldn’t be pumped to give a guy with knee injuries who only played 33 games in 2 seasons a multi year deal for 6+ million either

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

He’s absolutely more at risk - since it’s happened before

Don’t be obtuse and pretend mental health issues aren’t more likely to repeat in individuals that have had issues before

Which issue related to mental health did he deal with? And how often/likely is it to repeat? I didn’t realize you were aware of the specifics, so if you could shine a little light on it that’d be helpful for the rest of us to understand.

Because not all mental health issues are created equal, I don’t want to be obtuse and pretend they’re all equally likely to repeat, or pretend that the specific one he dealt with is more likely to repeat that the numerous other injuries players suffer every year, or more likely to occur (again) than any of those injuries that occur for the first time.

Thanks in advance for educating me on the specifics.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I don’t know who would give Kylington more than 2.5M for more than 2 years.

Treliving?

Odds going up now that Tanev signed there.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Major Major

My guess is that Murray is involved in these talks and he's not taking kindly to the idea of a raise. It seems like a harmless contract, but I could see how it may not be interpreted that way by the owner.

"harmless contract"
this isn't a charity, every dollar matters...cap space can be used in many ways
Flames should offer him what they feel is fair, he is free to shop around

[ComixZone]

From Friedman:

• Calgary desired a one-year extension with Oliver Kylington, but the player is seeking a second year — likely in the mold of Toronto’s new two-year, $3M AAV extension with Timothy Liljegren, a very fair comparable.

It’s a tough one, because his inspiring comeback and the way the Flames supported the defenceman through mental health challenges should mean a long and healthy marriage. Unfortunately, business gets in the way.

I think Kylington is doing what he needs to do. He's after security, and if a team is willing to give it to him then he should get it. Grabbing that 2nd year is likely a good shot of stability into his life that he may need.

There's no loyalty to players/employees in this life. Get your bag while you can.

[Strange Brew]

Kylington could benefit greatly from a one year contract too.

No one knows the player better than the Flames and if all they want to offer is one year, it seems kind of telling. Either they are worried about him being on the ice or they are not convinced of his fit. I think we are definitely going to see some signings for players that will be helpful in protecting a young goalie.

[Flamesfan05]

The one year benefits the Flames but how does it benefit Kylington

He is in no shape to gamble on himself

Let him find his security

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Kylington could benefit greatly from a one year contract too.

No one knows the player better than the Flames and if all they want to offer is one year, it seems kind of telling. Either they are worried about him being on the ice or they are not convinced of his fit. I think we are definitely going to see some signings for players that will be helpful in protecting a young goalie.

Which is why Kylington should get a 2 year deal if it's out there for him. Kylington has to look out for himself.

No problem with the Flames letting him walk, and no problem with Kylington walking on my side. Anyone talking loyalty just bugs me. The Flames did the right thing, and part of doing the right thing is not holding it over someone's head with expectations after the fact.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

He’s no-more at risk of it than any other player.

How so? Is this a comment that chance of missing time to physical injury is same as mental?

Would love to see that analysis.