(GT) - Canes @ Flames -Late thread, Down 2, GFG

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Maybe. But I'm not sure why you are giving coaches with zero history of success in the NHL a total pass.

If almost all the players look terrible why would you assume they all aren't trying and it's not an issue with Huska, or Savard on the PP.

Do you think he's telling them to pass it into each other's skates, make bad reads, get outmuscled and outhustled, and be flat footed?

Did he just forget his plan for a while, when they were playing well, and now he's coaching them to be stupid again?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

We don't have the personnel to generate a scoring chance on the powerplay?

I'm with you on PP coaching - it's been consistently bad all year

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It's understandable that the Canes came to play tonight, after crapping the bed last night.

The less understandable thing is that the Flames also crapped the bed last game, so why didn't they show up?

Lack of heart.

Team is hot garbage. A little 10 game run made you forget a bit but when it comes down to it, this team has very very little in the heart column.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Tough start. But I have a feeling the naysayers (why do they exist, do people not want good things?) will hush up and disappear by the end of the game.

Well, Wolf has the potential to really hurt the tank. So kind of get it.

[TheScorpion]

Flames only five points up on SJ now.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

When they were playing well they made adjustments to the system and were getting quality high danger scoring chances. Now they are playing the same perimeter low danger crap they did before, that is on the coach.

How is it on the coach? Did he tell them to stop getting high danger scoring chances?

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

We don't have the personnel to generate a scoring chance on the powerplay?

Systems matter. Coaching matters. But talent finds a way to create chances no matter the system, especially on PPs. We don’t have enough talent.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Were a bottom 5-7 team in terms of offensive talent IMO.

This is a key issue.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Were a bottom 5-7 team in terms of offensive talent IMO.

We are fine when we play to the strengths of the forward group, that is getting pucks to guys in the slot and the bumper spot. That is how we won those games to get back in it and I thought Huska was going to serve me crow but they are back to multiple games in a row of the same low danger perimeter/point no traffic bs they were doing when they were not winning. That can happen the odd game and it's a team falling back on their bad habits and the coach nips it in the bud the next practice. When it happens multiple games in a row that is 100% on Huska.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Do you think he's telling them to pass it into each other's skates, make bad reads, get outmuscled and outhustled, and be flat footed?

Did he just forget his plan for a while, when they were playing well, and now he's coaching them to be stupid again?

No, I think he's not a good head coach, as evidenced by his body of work at that position.

The team is bad, and has played bad for 2/3 of the year. He has been unable to get them to do anything consistently. If they were at least consistent in some style of play, but we're still losing, you could say he is coaching them towards aomething. To have them go out and just run around looking terrible reflects on Huska. To make dumb deployment decisions two minutes into a scoreless game reflects poorly on Husky. To have a PP that is his bad, reflects poorly on Husky and Savard.

I don't expect him to magically make them better, but Jesus create some kind of identity.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

I think teams have adjusted to our breakout and we aren't getting nearly the same rush opportunities or gaining the offensive zone as easily.

We look flat out slow through the neutral zone.

Once again we have a bargain bin coaching staff and this is the result.

Not sure why they will only spend money on a good coach if his name is Daryl Sutter. I'm sure there are other good coaches who aren't total #######s.

If you were one of the better coaches would you want to come here? To a team with little talent and has fired coach after coach?
Sounds like a hot market to me!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

How is it on the coach? Did he tell them to stop getting high danger scoring chances?

No, he had them playing down low with high danger chances and we were succeeding and now they have fallen back to what wasn't working multiple games in a row, that is on Ryan Huska full stop.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Systems matter. Coaching matters. But talent finds a way to create chances no matter the system, especially on PPs. We don’t have enough talent.

He is putting Huberdeau in a different spot on he PP than he was in Florida...and he is just supposed to figure it out. Ha had Huberdeau in front of the net on the PP. Come on, that's stupid.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Systems matter. Coaching matters. But talent finds a way to create chances no matter the system, especially on PPs. We don’t have enough talent.

When we fall behind we lack the skill to recover, if we are forced to open up we run into more problems

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, he had them playing down low with high danger chances and we were succeeding and now they have fallen back to what wasn't working multiple games in a row, that is on Ryan Huska full stop.

Execution is on the players. Full stop.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If you were one of the better coaches would you want to come here? To a team with little talent and has fired coach after coach?
Sounds like a hot market to me!

Money talks.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Execution is on the players. Full stop.

They are only executing what they are told by the coach. That is why good teams with poor coaching don't succeed while average teams look like high end teams with good coaching. You keep trying to sign people up to the Ryan Huska fan club though, good luck.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Systems matter. Coaching matters. But talent finds a way to create chances no matter the system, especially on PPs. We don’t have enough talent.

You’d think so. But the Penguins roll out a PP with Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, and Karlsson, and it’s ranked even lower than the Flames’. Meanwhile, Arizona has the 5th best PP in the league. Powerplays are kinda voodoo.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames only five points up on SJ now.

And the Oilers are only up three.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames only five points up on SJ now.

This is the way/