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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Of those guys you listed, they'd all be rotating in and out of the fourth line, if not waived.


Edit - Except Suter, who I missed.

Irwin is moving positions? And Hoglander won't be 4th line if he's in.

As I said, they didn't send their best, but a bunch of them played more NHL than AHL last year.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Just based on capfriendly I think 7 names that played yesterday are on that forecast 22 man roster for the Canucks.

Suter, Hoglander, Joshua, Dries, Studnicka, Rathbone, Irwin.

And I'd say the expectation is that Hirose, Podkolzin, Raty could push for a spot.

So I'm not sure it's crazy to think 7/8 names that played for the Canucks yesterday could be on the opening day 23 man roster...even if it's all bottom 6 or bottom pairing type roles.

Hirose will be on the roster before Rathbone. Cap Friendly has four of those names on the projected starting roster depth chart. Hoglander, who has to show he can play in training camp. Won't be shocked if he gets waived. Podkolzin who will likely end up back in the AHL to keep developing. Joshua who will be on the 4th line rotation and Suter, who will be on the roster.


Edit - So in reality, probably three of those players start the season on the team not including Suter who will for sure be there. I'd bank on Joshua, Hirose and Aman.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Forgot about Pius.


He will be on the opening night roster. New names are confusing, okay! In truth, Hirose will probably be there too, when I think about it.

My impression after watching last night:

Never meet your Hirose.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Hirose will be on the roster before Rathbone. Cap Friendly has four of those names on the projected starting roster depth chart. Hoglander, who has to show he can play in training camp. Won't be shocked if he gets waived. Podkolzin who will likely end up back in the AHL to keep developing. Joshua who will be on the 4th line rotation and Suter, who will be on the roster.


Edit - So in reality, probably three of those players start the season on the team not including Suter who will for sure be there. I'd bank on Joshua, Hirose and Aman.

Even then it's not like it was a team of guys that have no shot.

There are probably 10 guys on that roster that have a chance to be on the opening day 23 man roster or the first call ups.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Even then it's not like it was a team of guys that have no shot.

There are probably 10 guys on that roster that have a chance to be on the opening day 23 man roster or the first call ups.

8. 9 if we include Silovs. They're all AHL to NHL Bubble calibre players currently.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I do recall a split squad last year where the Flames sent their version of that line up into Vancouver and held their own against the canuck regulars.

I think Vancouver's system is just extra No Good.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

8. 9 if we include Silovs.

Suter, Hoglander, Joshua, Dries, Studnicka, Rathbone, Irwin, Hirose, Podkolzin, Raty, Iman

That is 11 names of guys that are either in a battle for an opening night roster spot, or could potentially be early call ups. Sure maybe only 4 or 5 actually end up on the opening night 23 man roster, but those are the 11 guys battling for that spot.

Now none of those guys are world beaters...but it was a lot closer to their best AHL lineup than it was their Pentiction Youngstarts tournament lineup.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Hirose will be on the roster before Rathbone. Cap Friendly has four of those names on the projected starting roster depth chart. Hoglander, who has to show he can play in training camp. Won't be shocked if he gets waived. Podkolzin who will likely end up back in the AHL to keep developing. Joshua who will be on the 4th line rotation and Suter, who will be on the roster.


Edit - So in reality, probably three of those players start the season on the team not including Suter who will for sure be there. I'd bank on Joshua, Hirose and Aman.

well, if you want to talk CF, they have Joshua on the 3rd line, not 4th. And Podolzin on the 2nd. And Hoglander is their top line RW.

[Blaster86]

Rathbone, Raty, and Podkolzin are not going to be first call ups or even second call ups unless they're lighting the AHL on fire. Rathbone likely won't be on the team post camp.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

well, if you want to talk CF, they have Joshua on the 3rd line, not 4th. And Podolzin on the 2nd. And Hoglander is their top line RW.

Someone else brought it up, not me. I think it's an awful way to figure out since it's using lines from practice to generate the depth chart.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Now none of those guys are world beaters...but it was a lot closer to their best AHL lineup than it was their Pentiction Youngstarts tournament lineup.

It was a joke, not an actual statement. Half the youngstars roster is back in juniors, europe, or whatever boondocks they were pulled out of for that event.

[SuperMatt18]

In the end that Canucks roster wasn't great but it was still a lot of players that either have played or are likely to play NHL games this year.

Rathbone, Hirose, Juulsen, McWard, Irwin, Dries, Raty, Hoglander, Studnicka, Suter, Mcdonough, Joshua, Aman, Podkolzin,

That is 14 skaters that played at least 5 NHL games last season - so even though it was no real top 6 players or top 4 dmen. There were a lot of guys that will likely be counted on as NHLers for the Canucks this year in the lineup last night and will likely be call ups at some point this season.

Interestingly enough the Flames only had 11 skaters that played 5 NHL games or more last season in the lineup last night - but of course way more of our top 6 and top 4 talent.

[Bingo]

I think it's a silly way to structure things ... much preferred the young guys getting game one against an equivelant opposition as we saw a few years ago.

But the Flames in Seattle tonight aren't much different than what Vancouver had on the ice last night.

Only two for sure NHL players in Dube and Vladar. Other two are Coronato and Ruzicka. That's it. Not really even any other long shots.

[devo22]

what the heck is this on the NHL.com website?





why would you ever scratch the great Andrei Taratukhin? Huska is no good.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah these types of matchups tend to be the way the first 3-4 pre-season games go, and really you only see more even match ups in the final 2-3 pre-season games.

But I do challenge that it was a roster of no-chance NHLers for the Canucks.

14 of those guys played at least 5 NHL games just last season. Those players are all likely to be their bottom 6, bottom pair, NHL extras, and first callups.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I was too oddly. I can't remember the last time I saw a pre-season line up that had no players who were for sure playing opening night and only three players who were on the bubble for make the opening night roster. It was neat to see the difference even half a team of skilled NHLers make vs that sort of line up. I wish I'd got to see this neat thing in a reversed way, but here we are.

The thing is, these types of preseason games happened in previous years and somehow a veteran ladden flames team would lose to this style of Canucks roster.

It was nice to see the right team crush AHLers. I feel like with Sutter here that wouldn't have happened.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

What is going on in the box score? 7-3 Canucks and the wrong logo everywhere.

The new NHL site was designed by Fanatics.

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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Which goalies are playing where tonight? Is Wolf in Seattle?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Which goalies are playing where tonight? Is Wolf in Seattle?

Wolf is in Calgary. Vladar in Seattle.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

That will be a good test for Vladar. Also a chance for Wolf to back up his good NHL debut with more steady play behind a mostly NHL roster.

The three headed monster in net is driving the most intrigue for me.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

In the end that Canucks roster wasn't great but it was still a lot of players that either have played or are likely to play NHL games this year.

Rathbone, Hirose, Juulsen, McWard, Irwin, Dries, Raty, Hoglander, Studnicka, Suter, Mcdonough, Joshua, Aman, Podkolzin,

That is 14 skaters that played at least 5 NHL games last season - so even though it was no real top 6 players or top 4 dmen. There were a lot of guys that will likely be counted on as NHLers for the Canucks this year in the lineup last night and will likely be call ups at some point this season.

Interestingly enough the Flames only had 11 skaters that played 5 NHL games or more last season in the lineup last night - but of course way more of our top 6 and top 4 talent.

True, though I thought those top 6/4 guys - especially Huberdeau, Kadri, Dube, Hanifin, did their damage and then let the kids/bubble guys take over.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

True, though I thought those top 6/4 guys - especially Huberdeau, Kadri, Dube, Hanifin, did their damage and then let the kids/bubble guys take over.

I don't recall seeing any of Lindholm, Sharangovich or Huberdeau at all in the third. I think the Kadri line played a single shift. They let the youngsters play.

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