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Old 06-20-2023, 02:50 PM   #181
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I think in general, billionaires do what they want when they want. One of the main perks of being '#### you' rich.
seems like this is more #### yourself rich.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:51 PM   #182
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Yeah. Thats just the Periscope though. Not the whole damned boat.

Hey, if it's good enoguh for the military:


https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tact...ntrollers-war/


I have to assume there was an alternate control method on the computer should the joystick stop working. You know, like WASD.
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Honestly, my main interest in this thread is the jokes. I appreciated it!

I know some people take this stuff seriously and probably think "are there no depths that these people will sink to?"
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What are the ASW capabilities that would be helpful that the helicopters can deploy that the ships wouldn't have? When I think of helicopter ASW I think of closing distance and dropping torpedoes or sonar buoys but I don't really know what they're capable of beyond that. Given the general location is known, how many planes would need to be dropping buoys to be helpful in the search?
None of the Canadian naval vessels I listed have ASW capabilities. It's 100% on the single CP-140, which can't be on station 100% of the time. CH-148 Cyclones could in theory help fill the gap, but I legitimately doubt whether full ASW capabilities are a part of the current Block 2 builds.

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I was in the next room when it came on the TV so I'm not sure what station, but the reporter had I think an English accent. Anyway, she managed to report that Canada was deploying such and such vessel with its specialized unmanned underwater research vehicle "Boaty McBoatface" in all seriousness. Its a shame she had to tag it with "a vehicle named by public voting" instead of just leaving it up to Europe to figure out.
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Last text message sent by billionaire before getting into Titanic sub that went missing

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And speaking on Good Morning Britain, friend and retired astronaut Colonel Terry Virts shared the last text he received from Harding before he set off.

"We don't really talk about risks, it's known," he said. "He understood the risks for sure, there's no doubt about that.

"The last text I got was, 'Hey, we're headed out tomorrow, it looks good, the weather's been bad so they've been waiting for this'.

"He went down to the deepest part of the ocean, set a few world records at the Mariana Trench and we talked quite a bit about the risks and the different things that they were going to be able to do.

"So he was very excited about it."
https://www.unilad.com/news/titanic-...NBDINSfhfZVyuE
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seems like this is more #### yourself rich.
They have won the game of Monopoly they see life is. Keep rolling the dice and passing go and adding to the pile? Need to find something else to blow their mind.
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I'm sure surviving going up to space probably emboldened him too. Those guys probably think nothing bad would ever happen to them.
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None of the Canadian naval vessels have ASW capabilities. It's 100% on the single CP-140, which can't be on station 100% of the time. CH-148 Cyclones could in theory help fill the gap, but I legitimately doubt whether full ASW capabilities are a part of the current Block 2 builds.

So what are the capabilities the Aurora has when it's on station to find the sub? It drops a sonar buoy or two or three, there's really not a whole lot it can do after is there?
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Was it supposed to be a 3-hour tour?

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This would have been a brilliant idea for a scam. Drop deep enough to lose the sunlight and then simulate the rest.
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I was in the next room when it came on the TV so I'm not sure what station, but the reporter had I think an English accent. Anyway, she managed to report that Canada was deploying such and such vessel with its specialized unmanned underwater research vehicle "Boaty McBoatface" in all seriousness. Its a shame she had to tag it with "a vehicle named by public voting" instead of just leaving it up to Europe to figure out.
I think it's actually a British thing, if this is the same vessel. Probably being deployed from a Canadian ship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface

Funny either way. I imagine they never thought they would have to talk about it in a serious news story one day.
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Just listening to the BBC coverage and the guy on now, a journalist, did say on one of the trips, the playstation controller did fail. When they were at the bottom of the ocean, they found that the controller would only allow them to go in circles. After a while of trouble shooting, they got it going, but the pilot had to hold it upside down.

Also, the New York Times has apparently uncovered a letter from a professional association of marine technology experts to Stockton Rush in 2018 who expressed concern in his design and urged him to do more work to get it properly classified. It sounds like they were worried about him ruining their reputations by putting out something hokey.

Here is link to the letter:

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None of the Canadian naval vessels I listed have ASW capabilities. It's 100% on the single CP-140, which can't be on station 100% of the time. CH-148 Cyclones could in theory help fill the gap, but I legitimately doubt whether full ASW capabilities are a part of the current Block 2 builds.

your right, how quickly I forget. The Cyclones don't do independent sub searching, they don't have a any kind of independent sonar, nor are they designed with a sonar buoy deployment capability. They're wholy dependent on the ship platform. Basically the frigate is supposed to locate the sub or the P-8 and direct the Cyclone in with its torpedoes.



Which is sorta useless.



The Sea King could conduct independent searches and carried a dipping sonar as well as its own complement of sonar buoys.
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Just listening to the BBC coverage and the guy on now, a journalist, did say on one of the trips, the playstation controller did fail. When they were at the bottom of the ocean, they found that the controller would only allow them to go in circles. After a while of trouble shooting, they got it going, but the pilot had to hold it upside down.

Also, the New York Times has apparently uncovered a letter from experts to Stockton Rush in 2018 who expressed concern in his design and urged him to do more work to get it properly classified.
did they try blowing on the cartridge?
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Just listening to the BBC coverage and the guy on now, a journalist, did say on one of the trips, the playstation controller did fail. When they were at the bottom of the ocean, they found that the controller would only allow them to go in circles. After a while of trouble shooting, they got it going, but the pilot had to hold it upside down.

Also, the New York Times has apparently uncovered a letter from experts to Stockton Rush in 2018 who expressed concern in his design and urged him to do more work to get it properly classified.
Wait, so they didn't have a non-wireless keyboard attached to the computer to WASD in an emergency? FAIL.
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This would have been a brilliant idea for a scam. Drop deep enough to lose the sunlight and then simulate the rest.
Especially with the high res scanning they recently did.
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Was the CEO on board to take Stock of the damage as the water Rushed in?
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So what are the capabilities the Aurora has when it's on station to find the sub? It drops a sonar buoy or two or three, there's really not a whole lot it can do after is there?
Well for starters, the launch platform has to record, monitor, and process data from the sonobuoy. If the Aurora's not flying, no one's listening to them...

Regardless - I highly suspect there are US Navy assets (likely submarines) that are part of this effort and not being advertised.
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While the game controller thing is damn funny, there is a case to be made for using off-the-shelf parts for systems that do not require innovative tech. Would a custom controller built specifically for this sub have been safer? It's not like the controller is very big, you bring a couple of (previously tested) backups with you, and if it fails, you use one of those. Same with the ballast, being compact and heavy is 99% of the design spec, custom machining it out of unobtanium is overkill.
I get why everyone is focusing on the controller as it seems silly to most but its actually a fairly common practice now a days to use off the shelf controllers for very expensive machines. I know the US military switched to Xbox controllers for some types of remote operated devices that were previously controlled by 'custom' controllers that were costing upwards of $15k each.

No comment on the rest of the vessel's build quality but the controller is definitely not something to focus much attention on.
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