I think it was later than that, and had to do with ongoing clashes with the infamous Ron Bremner.
IIRC, Lanny was involved pretty substantially in the GM search that saw Craig Button hired. When he stepped down shortly thereafter, a lot of speculation was that Lanny was mad not to have been selected as GM himself, or at least given a plumb role in hockey ops. Lanny denied it, but something had soured him on the organization and he didn't come back until Ken King wooed him shortly after taking over.
Forgot about Bremner.
McDonald was the GM for Team Canada at the World Championships in 2001 and 2002. Then returned as their director of hockey ops in 2004.
I love these guys, but also felt a tinge of hypocrisy as we chirped at Oilstains for years about their old boys club in MacTavish and Lowe, etc.
but this would be more like Ryan Smyth and Wayne Gretzky came in to take over.
No way man, the main difference is motivation and forward thinking. The guys up north had plenty of rings up there so the "been there and lets try it again" attitude comes into play. Then they get in a cycle of trying to do things the same, over and over. Pure backwards/old school thinking.
Our guys never won a cup and it appears, are much more forward thinking. (time will tell here) Thus much more motivation and most likely they will pivot faster if situations demand it.
I know others will see it like up north but you need to look deeper into the situation and especially the personnel.
(my 2 cents)
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Why on earth do you think Kiprusoff would make a good goaltending coach?
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Because he's the most goalie of all our former goalies. Stands to reason that he would have some decent advice on how our goalies can be better goalies.
Is there something that implies he would be worse than Sigalet or Labarbra?
Because he's the most goalie of all our former goalies. Stands to reason that he would have some decent advice on how our goalies can be better goalies.
Is there something that implies he would be worse than Sigalet or Labarbra?
Same reason Gretzky was a great coach. Oh, wait...
Outside of maybe Burke, the best goalie coaches are not NHLers. Korn, Clark, Parkilla, plus Allaire back in the day.
Because he's the most goalie of all our former goalies. Stands to reason that he would have some decent advice on how our goalies can be better goalies.
Just because you were/are really good at something doesn't mean you would be a good teacher. That's not just in hockey/sports either. In anything.
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Just because you were/are really good at something doesn't mean you would be a good teacher. That's not just in hockey/sports either. In anything.
Yeah that's kind of a well known fact. Not sure why you felt the need to point that out lol. Since we are sharing obvious facts I will point out that being good at something is generally an important pre-requisite for teaching that thing. So while he may not be a good teacher he may also be a phenomenal teacher or even an average one. Cool eh?
Yeah that's kind of a well known fact. Not sure why you felt the need to point that out lol. Since we are sharing obvious facts I will point out that being good at something is generally an important pre-requisite for teaching that thing. So while he may not be a good teacher he may also be a phenomenal teacher or even an average one. Cool eh?
You don't have to be a dick about it.
You're saying because he was the best goalie in franchise history that he would have some decent advice on how the goalies could be better. Sometimes you aren't good at explaining what you know. Or it's easier for you to work with kids but not adults.
Like GioforPM pointed out, some of the best goalie coaches weren't "good" as far as playing at a high level. But they understand the position in a way that people who were can't.
Yeah that's kind of a well known fact. Not sure why you felt the need to point that out lol. Since we are sharing obvious facts I will point out that being good at something is generally an important pre-requisite for teaching that thing. So while he may not be a good teacher he may also be a phenomenal teacher or even an average one. Cool eh?
There's a difference between being good and being elite. Kipper was elite but he wasn't a guy that lived hockey. He smoked, drank, and fished in the offseason. A lot of elite athletes are gifted with natural abilities that can't be taught. As good as Hasek was I don't think you want him teaching goaltending to prospects as his style was not conducive to success for mere mortals that weren't gifted with elite reflexes. Some elite athletes got elite out of extremely hard work at their craft all year around and others may not have had to work as hard because of natural gifts. The latter athlete typically doesn't translate well to coaching because things came easy for them and they can't relate to the standard athlete that requires instruction on the fundamentals and how to maximize lesser god given talent.
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Yeah that's kind of a well known fact. Not sure why you felt the need to point that out lol. Since we are sharing obvious facts I will point out that being good at something is generally an important pre-requisite for teaching that thing. So while he may not be a good teacher he may also be a phenomenal teacher or even an average one. Cool eh?
Did that feel better?
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. Why not just bring back all of the 04 group while we are at it.
