Shadow Banning Yoho

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Didn't HF Boards have a dedicated politics forum. It was like that years back. I don't think it exists now tho.

Yeah the mods hated dealing with it so they shuttered it.

To be fair, it was shuttered during peak Trump Era and the Chud contingent on HF is pretty damn high.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Didn't HF Boards have a dedicated politics forum. It was like that years back. I don't think it exists now tho.

Nope they dumped it. But the HF one was a complete ship whow of hate and rage and fighting and raging. It was also unmoderated. you know FEEEDOOMMM

I will say I don't really jump into the CP one very often, I'll post the occasional article or respond to a thread.

Its much better handled and for the most part except for an occasional poster, I don't have a problem with how people handle their discussions.

People are going to be passionate about topics like politics. People are going to be entrenched by their political beliefs and they're rarely going to come off of them. But part of being an adult is to decide, if you're going to debate, debate. If your going to rage farm, expect people to jump all over you.

I like the idea of having political discussions on a forum like this. It makes it more interesting then ten threads on why the Flames suck or why Brad needs to be fired.

I mean for me over the last few years. Hockey is boring.

But having a community or forum that comes up with interesting topics whether is entertainment, other sports, politics, tattoos makes CP an excellent virtual gathering pub.

I've only put one person on ignore and he remains there to this day. More because he was just flat out toxic to me.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The better option IMO is to have a Politics Only/Debate forum and strictly ban/hard enforce no politics talk in any of the other forums.

I'm also good with this.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by zamler

I'm also good with this.

The forum pretty much self moderates to this, though. Rarely does a political comment get tossed somewhere it doesn't belong that the poster is told "not here, please". For the most part I don't see that as an issue around here.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The forum pretty much self moderates to this, though. Rarely does a political comment get tossed somewhere it doesn't belong that the poster is told "not here, please". For the most part I don't see that as an issue around here.

This is true if you ignore the weirdos in FOI

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The better option IMO is to have a Politics Only/Debate forum and strictly ban/hard enforce no politics talk in any of the other forums.

I would support this... I actually think said forum would probably ultimately die a quiet death as fewer and fewer people participate in it. If the political threads in Off Topic weren't right in front of you when you open the forum you might not be inclined to search them out, honestly, outside of big events happening like elections or major scandals.

[Wastedyouth]

It's funny someone actually needs a piece of code to ignore posts.

You can, without clicking a single button, ignore anyones posts.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It's funny someone actually needs a piece of code to ignore posts.

You can, without clicking a single button, ignore anyones posts.

but the naked eye is curious!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by zamler

I forgot to mention the forums I'm talking about banned political discussion completely. At first I thought it was a horrible idea but over time it made things far better.

But obviously the majority want political discussion as the Calgary/Alberta/Canadian/American political threads plus some others are like 70% of ongoing discussion in the off topic forum.

They could use less yoho style misinformation posts, but other than that it's clear the majority want to be up to date and involved in politics on every level.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It's funny someone actually needs a piece of code to ignore posts.

You can, without clicking a single button, ignore anyones posts.

It's just a lot easier to do when someone is on ignore. I'm not tempted to view the post. Hell, often I start reading a post without seeing who posted it. I only have maybe a half dozen or so people on ignore but it improves my forum experience quite a bit just not interacting with those people basically at all. Doesn't stop people from quoting them but nothing's perfect.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's just a lot easier to do when someone is on ignore. I'm not tempted to view the post. Hell, often I start reading a post without seeing who posted it. I only have maybe a half dozen or so people on ignore but it improves my forum experience quite a bit just not interacting with those people basically at all. Doesn't stop people from quoting them but nothing's perfect.

Yeah, I've got three on my list, and I'm willing to bet most people on here could guess the other two.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

JAG, shot in the Backlund, Yoho types are those posters that only spit gasoline while chronically lacking self awareness or accountability, or sense in general. They're deaf, blind and numb to it. They're like worms or maggots that will squeeze around you and burrow elsewhere. Like water, or sand that can't be grasped within your clenching fist.

They can be banned but will replicate in numbers. They can't be reasoned or bargained with. But if you simply ignore them or tune them out, they will shrivel up into a little ugly baby pennywises and their eyes will glaze over for a while

This is how we subdue these types. They feed off of the spotlight. Just don't give it to them, and then you just have the odd unsavory post once in while, rather than pages of them and the endless push back exchanges

People with unsavory views/opinions will always exist and share internet spaces with us. Cancelling them doesnt work on this medium and even if we could, it would make us weak. It would mean our resistance to differing/fringe opinions, however misled, is frail. We just have to thicken our hides and learn to deal with their existences effectively in order to minimize them.

A thread dedication is pretty well the opposite of how we ought to deal with them.

Please indicate where I have done the above! I have had a differing opinion and sustained debate on them. You may not agree with my approach and I am fine with that.
I have tried to be polite and in the times I was not I have apologized. That is far from common on this forum, If I have been wrong I have fessed up and corrected myself.
I challenge you to go back and read the vitriol that was directed my way and say that I am the problem. Most posts were not even on the topic being discussed.
When I see something I wish to post on I will. If not then I just read as I have for years.
Look in the mirror for your own actions before judging others. That may be hard, but I think it would help a lot of posters.

[PepsiFree]

I think CP should remove everything I don’t like and don’t participate in and keep the stuff that I think is cool.

Or people could just use the ignore function and/or continue not participating in and spending time on the things they dislike instead of making posts and threads about significant changes that should happen so they don’t have to do any of the former.

Once you’re calling for banning users because they don’t participate in a way you like or removing/banning some of the busiest topics on the board that you don’t even participate in, I’d say you’ve lost the plot a little bit.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think CP should remove everything I don’t like and don’t participate in and keep the stuff that I think is cool.

Or people could just use the ignore function and/or continue not participating in and spending time on the things they dislike instead of making posts and threads about significant changes that should happen so they don’t have to do any of the former.

Once you’re calling for banning users because they don’t participate in a way you like or removing/banning some of the busiest topics on the board that you don’t even participate in, I’d say you’ve lost the plot a little bit.

We don't agree on much, but this agree with you.

[TorqueDog]

Ah sh-t, forgot one. Four. I have four now.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's just a lot easier to do when someone is on ignore. I'm not tempted to view the post. Hell, often I start reading a post without seeing who posted it. I only have maybe a half dozen or so people on ignore but it improves my forum experience quite a bit just not interacting with those people basically at all. Doesn't stop people from quoting them but nothing's perfect.

You miss some of us and you know it

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Just a guy

Please indicate where I have done the above! I have had a differing opinion and sustained debate on them. You may not agree with my approach and I am fine with that.
I have tried to be polite and in the times I was not I have apologized. That is far from common on this forum, If I have been wrong I have fessed up and corrected myself.
I challenge you to go back and read the vitriol that was directed my way and say that I am the problem. Most posts were not even on the topic being discussed.
When I see something I wish to post on I will. If not then I just read as I have for years.
Look in the mirror for your own actions before judging others. That may be hard, but I think it would help a lot of posters.

Unbelievable lol. I hadn't seen a post in months. They're like the cordyceps with their little root networks.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Unbelievable lol. I hadn't seen a post in months. They're like the cordyceps with their little root networks.

Thank you for proving the point.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Just a guy

Thank you for proving the point.

I'll give you a pass since covid is more or less in the past

Sure, if you want to call it polite. But every one knows you're impossible to reason with when people challenge your highly questionable views. And so engaging with you on anything becomes a time wasting circular discussion

Covid, Trump and the convoy shenanigans helped to illuminate who's living on Theo Island and who lives in the real world

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I don't want to be better.

Like, I enjoy how you can be less filtered on the Internet. Say what you want without worrying about feelings as much as you do in real life. We spend most of our days speaking in a professional way, pretending nobody is dumb, humouring stupid opinions/suggestions/contributions because you'll look like the ####### if you reject somebody's dumb idea as dumb if you're, like, in a meeting or something.

On the Internet, you can just unleash an unfiltered paragraph on a guy who just said something stupid. No chains. It's freeing and even therapeutic. I don't want to speak like a professional on here. It's not Linked In.

So I guess we're never going to find a version of the Internet that's just for us unless you start your own site. I imagine Bingo and the mods like a place where there is no swearing, hence we have a site that has no swearing in spite of the majority preferring to be able to speak unmuzzled instead of like 11-year-olds.

Originally Posted by Yamer

With everything we know and are discovering about online engagement and social media impact on mental health I can't justify why anyone would want to act like that towards a perfect stranger. Just because you can't see or feel the affects they are still there, it's just someone else on the other end turning away from a screen that has to drag them around offline.

Having come from that place and learning to not take it so seriously I understand how some people don't have that capacity. Hence why I try my best not to put that energy out in the ether in the first place.

Being thoughtful and courteous doesn't have to be professional, and it doesn't mean we can't disagree. You can ####ing talk however you want to ####ing talk, just don't be a #### about it.

Empathy is a virtue.

I'm with Sliver. It's not like he means just saying #### to tick someone off, but the vibe I get from Sliver is similar to my own posting style I think (In style at least, not substance)

I've talked about it before but I just chat to everyone on here like I'm hanging around chatting to buddies, even when it comes to calling a buddy an idiot for saying something dumb. It's not to be mean, but we give each other the gears. But I do know for a fact that a lot of posters don't like this kind of posting, they find it rude and informal.