Troy Stetcher played on the same terrible Yotes team and was -3 to Vali's -9
he is putting up some assists but his season is being greatly exaggerated in here for maximum outrage as usual.
Like I said when he is playing well and earning ice on a team that actually wants to win games and cares about BOTH ends then we can talk about the one that got away (from 31 teams)
I tend not to care if ex Flames do well, no matter what team they're on. Circumstances change, players' attitudes change, plenty of things can happen without there necessarily having to be blame assigned. Sometimes contracts and rosters even dictate you let a guy go who you know may well blossom somewhere else.
I doubt Boston cares about Hamilton, even after his big season. I doubt Carolina loses sleep over Lindholm despite him turning into a PPG player.
Most players a team cuts loose never amount to anything. A few do. Life goes on.
No, he's been the #1 on the Coyotes. I think he's playing at a top-four level around the league.
I can't dispute what you're seeing Scorp because I don't watch this team. He didn't look like much against the Flames.
To go from how looked in camp to being a true top 4 Dman, akin to say a Hanifin or Weegar is spectacular stuff. You'd think he could have signed for more than $1M next year.
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Its good hes found a home but again this is a extreme exaggeration that he is some star in the making. He is playing on the worst franchise in the league on and off the ice with zero pressure to win or perform.
The top 6 would have been almost impossible for him to crack here especially after the way he played.
I don't watch Coyotes hockey (nobody does), but when they played the Flames, I thought Valimaki was still awful. I had really high hopes for him for a number of years, but either his ceiling has dropped substantially due to injuries, or it was exaggerated in the first place. Maybe he develops over time and becomes a good player, but he is not looking like the next Giordano.
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No doubt Valimaki would slot down on a better team, which is where he should be. But criticizing him for being a minus 9? 6 Coyotes have worse plus-minus marks. 6 more are within 1 or 2 of that.
Bad team means bad plus-minus, news at eleven.
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No, he's been the #1 on the Coyotes. I think he's playing at a top-four level around the league.
and Scorp has watched him more than any of us.
The Flames screwed this up. I don't even think you can argue it now. It's just another player, and painfully another 1st, that got mis-utilized and in this case the organization lost him for nothing.
This is why the team has no success - stuff like this piles up across the different aspects of team building/management.
Juuso had a nice rebound and has established himself as an NHL'er but he is not an across the board top four guy. I don't care if someone has watched them more.
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The Flames screwed this up. I don't even think you can argue it now. It's just another player, and painfully another 1st, that got mis-utilized and in this case the organization lost him for nothing.
This is why the team has no success - stuff like this piles up across the different aspects of team building/management.
And he isn't biased at all
Watching a guy more pretty irrelevant...fans always over rate their own guys
No doubt Valimaki would slot down on a better team, which is where he should be. But criticizing him for being a minus 9? 6 Coyotes have worse plus-minus marks. 6 more are within 1 or 2 of that.
Bad team means bad plus-minus, news at eleven.
Flames dmen don't have big dashes... supposedly he is better than some of them
