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Old 12-23-2022, 12:40 PM   #181
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It really does feel like Huberdeau is about to breakout now. If you look at his stat lines this is how he piled up 115 points, a game with 3 assists next game a goal next game 5 points.

It was annoying that he didn't shoot, but at least he is in the position to create those chances I would be more worried if he wasn't creating at all.

His confidence also seems to be growing as he is making some risky passes that when they work they lead to goals and easy chances for the shooter.
People keep talking about Tanguay but we were having these convos about Gaudreau not shooting in recent years
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What an amazing backcheck by Backlund in OT.
Should make him the Captain.
Leadership by example.
Huh? Dude was beyond gassed. Maybe he got caught out being on the ice too long, but dissing on his leadership and heart is so weird.
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IMO Huberdeau is a much more complete player than either Tanguay or Gaudreau. He is an elite passer and also does not shy away from contact and goes into the dirty areas. More of those passes will equate to goals as his teammates figure out where to go.


I think Bennett had a career year with Huberdeau by not overthinking it and going to the net with speed.
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Old 12-23-2022, 01:05 PM   #184
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IMO Huberdeau is a much more complete player than either Tanguay or Gaudreau. He is an elite passer and also does not shy away from contact and goes into the dirty areas. More of those passes will equate to goals as his teammates figure out where to go.


I think Bennett had a career year with Huberdeau by not overthinking it and going to the net with speed.

Lol what? By dirty areas do you mean the collection of dirt and snow on the side boards?
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Old 12-23-2022, 01:10 PM   #185
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timbit is Paul Baxter, a former Flames player and coach, Dino sounds like a younger guy.
His hatred for Gaudreau was disgusting.
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His hatred for Gaudreau was disgusting.
Unlike your hatred for Mark Giordano which was perfectly reasonable?
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Unlike your hatred for Mark Giordano which was perfectly reasonable?
are you still triggered? I haven't brought him up at all this year except when we played Toronto that night.

Timbit ragged on Johnny for 7 years!!!!
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Old 12-23-2022, 01:16 PM   #188
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are you still triggered? I haven't brought him up at all this year except when we played Toronto that night.

Timbit ragged on Johnny for 7 years!!!!
The correct reply to my post was:

"Yeah but Jiri you ragged on Johnny EVEN WORSE than Timbit did. Pot meet Kettle.".

I mean I threw that softball right down the meat of the plate for you.
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The correct reply to my post was:

"Yeah but Jiri you ragged on Johnny EVEN WORSE than Timbit did. Pot meet Kettle.".

I mean I threw that softball right down the meat of the plate for you.
whatever. you are still pretty dense to think I hate Gio the person. He is prob the greatest Flames ambassador to the city in history. Gio the over the hill subpar defenceman is a different story...

Gio- 0 playoff series win
Johnny- 3 playoff series wins.

and I never once said you ragged on Johnny unlike that donut hole.
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Lol what? By dirty areas do you mean the collection of dirt and snow on the side boards?

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I meant into the corners and along the boards. I don't recall Tanguay or Gaudreau going into those areas willingly. That said, if your definition of dirty areas consists of only the front of the net then yes, I haven't seen Huberdeau making a habit of going there.
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Maybe it’s all his head, but I still haven’t seen any sort of play from Huberdeau that looks like something only a $10m player can do. One spin move in preseason. Otherwise he looks no more special than someone making 4-6.

Even if he is in his head, you’d think after 30+ games he’d at least accidentally do one thing that’s awesome.
I haven't really seen anything truly awesome either. I keep hearing either on the radio or from other fans that they keep seeing flashes and glimpses of superstar Huberdeau, but honestly I have barely seen any of this supposed "magic" other than a nice play or two that were the kind of passes most NHLers could make on a good play anyways. Please tell me this isn't it.

Gaudreau got you out of your seat and would drop your jaw multiple times per night with his passing. I have yet to see anything remotely resembling that from JH. I didn't really watch him in FLA, so I couldn't even tell you what this superstar version of him looks like, but hopefully we get to see it with regularity.

As someone else said, his life was turned upside down by getting traded here, new system, new coach, new lifestyle. I am more than willing to give him a long leash to get adjusted and hopefully showcase that stardom here. But plays like last night were dumb. Dude's been a class act since he got here and has owned up to it, so let's see him walk the walk.
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IMO Huberdeau is a much more complete player than either Tanguay or Gaudreau. He is an elite passer and also does not shy away from contact and goes into the dirty areas. More of those passes will equate to goals as his teammates figure out where to go.


I think Bennett had a career year with Huberdeau by not overthinking it and going to the net with speed.

Lol, which of his 6 goals have come within the blue paint? 3 goals on a breakway/ 2 on 1. One on the PP outside the dot. And one was a lucky bounce with the goalie failing outside the blue paint. I have yet to see Huby go to the "dirty areas"
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What an amazing backcheck by Backlund in OT.
Should make him the Captain.
Leadership by example.
This post feels ripe with sarcasm. Backlund was an absolute monster yesterday, thought he was arguably the best skater on the ice between both teams. He played a lot in OT and his tank was probably empty on that backcheck, so it’s hard to be critical.

He also shouldn’t have needed to backcheck on that play either because that slick feed he made to Huberdeau in the slot prior to the turnover should’ve been buried into the back of the net. But that didn’t happen and we all know what occurred shortly afterwards.
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This post feels ripe with sarcasm. Backlund was an absolute monster yesterday, thought he was arguably the best skater on the ice between both teams. He played a lot in OT and his tank was probably empty on that backcheck, so it’s hard to be critical.

He also shouldn’t have needed to backcheck on that play either because that slick feed he made to Huberdeau in the slot prior to the turnover should’ve been buried into the back of the net. But that didn’t happen and we all know what occurred shortly afterwards.
Look at that posters history. It's his first post in 5 months and it's always the same thing
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Lol, which of his 6 goals have come within the blue paint? 3 goals on a breakway/ 2 on 1. One on the PP outside the dot. And one was a lucky bounce with the goalie failing outside the blue paint. I have yet to see Huby go to the "dirty areas"

I've always considered the corners and battling along the boards "dirty" too.
Tough crowd here today.
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I haven't really seen anything truly awesome either. I keep hearing either on the radio or from other fans that they keep seeing flashes and glimpses of superstar Huberdeau, but honestly I have barely seen any of this supposed "magic" other than a nice play or two that were the kind of passes most NHLers could make on a good play anyways. Please tell me this isn't it.

Gaudreau got you out of your seat and would drop your jaw multiple times per night with his passing. I have yet to see anything remotely resembling that from JH. I didn't really watch him in FLA, so I couldn't even tell you what this superstar version of him looks like, but hopefully we get to see it with regularity.

As someone else said, his life was turned upside down by getting traded here, new system, new coach, new lifestyle. I am more than willing to give him a long leash to get adjusted and hopefully showcase that stardom here. But plays like last night were dumb. Dude's been a class act since he got here and has owned up to it, so let's see him walk the walk.
I think people are just thinking 115 point Johnny was a yearly thing. Many years of the button hook and turnover at the blue lines seem to have disappeared from the minds of many.

Comparing the 2 is not fair to Huberdeau. They are different players. I can point to many things Huberdeau does that help the team that Johnny could never do like winning a board battles.

Huberdeau was literally giving empty nets for guys in Florida.

I think he finishes strong. You can see him making the risky play at the blue line in the offensive zone. Those will convert.
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Lol, which of his 6 goals have come within the blue paint? 3 goals on a breakway/ 2 on 1. One on the PP outside the dot. And one was a lucky bounce with the goalie failing outside the blue paint. I have yet to see Huby go to the "dirty areas"
Why don’t you all go take a look at how many hits alone Huby has and tell me he’s as soft as Johnny or Tanguay. Similar players when it comes to offence. But Huberdeau doesn’t shy away from contact. He isn’t as strong of puck carrier as Johnny but god dam it’s not even close. Dirty areas is more than just front of the net boys.
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Gio- 0 playoff series win
Johnny- 3 playoff series wins.
Are we really counting that Winnipeg round as a "playoff series win"?

And if so, I guess Giordano played in that one too.

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I see the airing of grievances has begun. It’s a Festivus miracle!
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Entertaining game for sure.

Yet, the flames were outplayed for most of this game. They didn’t really show up until they were down 3-1 with 12 mins to go. Their possession metrics are pitiful against competitive teams.

First was embarrassing despite being tied. Second was very 2000s esque Minnesota wild hockey. No forecheck pressure and no offensive zone time. That first 2mins of the third was the type of brainless abject hockey I have come to expect with this group. Bad man to man coverage and weegar coughs it up with no fwd protecting the front of the net. Lucic tried but was late. Bad d play again.

The next goal, 10 seconds later, they let vilardi just skate through the blue line unmolested and no one can box out or take a stick of their pressuring forwards.

Despite a terrible game they played with urgency and found a way to win a point. Toffoli with a laser and hanifin with a good read to venture behind the net with a beauty pass to a really strong , of late DD.

OT was shambolic. People blame Huberdeau but it was Anderson’s super soft turn over and his inability to stop two passes that went through him. If he was down on the ice earlier there is no return pass to kempe.

Anyway, Tanev is our best defensive player. He’s so smart out there and he’s decent on the rush.

Hanifin had a decent game. He’s a lot better when this team activates the defence to pinch more and roam more.

Vladar looked great again. He’s a starting goalie imo.

Rosie seemed a bit more physical. Got a secondary apple.

Lindy wasn’t noticeable offensively again for me but his dzone play was so responsible.

Backs isn’t consistent offensively but his compete has been the most consistent and impressive part of his game to me. I think he’s the best center for Coleman and mangiapane.

Coleman hasn’t looked like he contributes much outside of gutsy efforts on the birds on the pK. For 5 million id hope for more.

Kadri is mercurial as they get. He just doesn’t trust his line mates. Try Ritchie with him. Crash the net look for a rebound because he is gonna shoot all the time.

Ritchie didn’t play his best game. Looked slow and disengaged.

Lucic is looking better playing on the top line but he doesn’t add that much with his lack of foot speed although that pass to Huberdeau was 200iq. Huberdeau is such a good mind for beating a goalie for in close.

Huby Lewis needs to shoot more yes. That behind the back no look through his legs was sus AF. Yet, he’s still looking better.

Eats bread is frustrating. I don’t like him with kadri. He isn’t looking as lethal as he did last year. Was it a contract year motivation issue or is he being miscast? He does look like he is good at pick possession and cycle play. There has to be a good fit for him.

Doobie is really bringing his intensity of late. I’m happy he’s starting to convert. He scores 20 this year.

Stone looks slow out there and that give away with 3 kings around him was as ugly as I have seen from him this year. He needs to sit. Sure would be nice to have Ok back but we have to make do. Gilbert seems like a better fit but he still has his bell ringing.

Anderson looks like his game comes and goes like Calgary weather. All four season in one day. With him it’s all outcomes in one game. I just don’t see a complete game from him often.

Big Z at least is an elite hitter and physical force out there.

Lewis is solid as ever but he’s pretty long in the tooth. Can’t expect much more from that warrior. Always makes smart plays given his ice time.

Flames win tonight but man the pacific is bad. Although they did get the idea of trying to make Copley move around his net by being more patient and it paid off with that 3rd goal. It seems like they can apply in game adjustments. They were so close to winning in reg despite showing up for the past ten minutes.

They can make the playoffs in this conference but LA looks like the better team right now.
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