Friedman: Do the Flames zero in on Rodrigues?

[Macindoc]

Kylington needs to improve his edgework. He has great straight line speed, but has difficulty making tight turns in corners, resulting in spectacular falls and injuries, as well as taking himself out of the play. With improved edge work, he has the potential to be a solid top 4 d who could effectively neutralize players like McDavid and MacKinnon.

As far as Hanifin is concerned, he is a top 5 pick just coming into his prime (as a defenseman) who has no significant deficiencies, can play in the top pairing, and is on a sweetheart contract. If he is traded for a RW, a position with intrinsically lower value, it can't be for anything less than a true first line RW on a contract with term or who has remaining RFA years.

With respect to Rodriguez, I wouldn't sign him for any more than 1M. I would like to stay under the cap and try to accumulate cap space for trade deadline moves.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Calgarypucks have more trust on Kylington than the Flames do

How do you figure?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How do you figure?

Lots of people here have been hyping Kylington for years

The Flames took a long time even finally giving him a chance last year

Even after that, they are willing to let him walk in 2 yrs

You don’t do that if you are high on a player

I am not saying they don’t value him. It’s just not very high as many people here

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Lots of people here have been hyping Kylington for years

The Flames took a long time even finally giving him a chance last year

Even after that, they are willing to let him walk in 2 yrs

You don’t do that if you are high on a player

I am not saying they don’t value him. It’s just not very high as many people here

By that logic the Flames aren't very high on Andrew Mangiapane.

I'm not as high on Kylington as some, I see too much reliance on Tanev, and he reverted back to his feet not moving when he has the puck, but his two year deal doesn't mean anything in terms of the team's view on him.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Lots of people here have been hyping Kylington for years

The Flames took a long time even finally giving him a chance last year

Even after that, they are willing to let him walk in 2 yrs

You don’t do that if you are high on a player

I am not saying they don’t value him. It’s just not very high as many people here

You can’t give every player 8 years.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You can’t give every player 8 years.

No but you can more than 2 yrs

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

By that logic the Flames aren't very high on Andrew Mangiapane.

I'm not as high on Kylington as some, I see too much reliance on Tanev, and he reverted back to his feet not moving when he has the puck, but his two year deal doesn't mean anything in terms of the team's view on him.

Sure but combined with everything, all point to them not valuing him as a core piece

They locked up Andersson for a long time, they gave Valimaki more money and all the chances before he failed.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sure but combined with everything, all point to them not valuing him as a core piece

Or they don't want to give too long of term to see if he will become a core piece and then re-evaluate. It doesn't mean they don't value him.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sure but combined with everything, all point to them not valuing him as a core piece

I think that is the entirely correct valuation. Kylington has the widest floor/ceiling of the current D corp. He isn't a core piece, but he might be after this year.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sure but combined with everything, all point to them not valuing him as a core piece

They locked up Andersson for a long time, they gave Valimaki more money and all the chances before he failed.

Not valuing him and not valuing him as a core piece are not the same.

I'm sure they have the same concerns some of us do.

Is he a complimentary player? Can he carry a pairing? Is he done improving? Is he big enough?

I'd say given the way he played with Tanev out he's more of a 5 than a 3, the contract term probably reflects the same.

[TheoFleury]

Why does it matter that Hanifin was a top 5 pick? So was Griffen Reinhart and ton of other dudes

[AustinL_NHL]

Longer contracts for Mangiapane & Kylington would've cost a lot more money, plus higher cap hits, which takes away the Flames' flexibility the next couple years.

With the Flames' next 2 years being the best opportunities they've had to go for it, it makes complete sense that Treliving signed them to the contracts he did.

Especially Kylington. Anything longer than 2 years would've required buying UFA years, which very likely shoots his cap hit up an extra $500k for each addition season.

Has nothing to do with not believing in them

[Enoch Root]

So many fans talk about Kylington having upside, but they don't give Hanifin the same respect.

They are the same age, drafted the same year. Hanifin has been better than Kylington EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE, by a fairly significant margin.

And yet somehow, many of you think Kylington is the better bet.

Bizarre.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

No but you can more than 2 yrs

Anything from 0-8 is an option. Kylington and the Flames went with 2.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So many fans talk about Kylington having upside, but they don't give Hanifin the same respect.

They are the same age, drafted the same year. Hanifin has been better than Kylington EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE, by a fairly significant margin.

And yet somehow, many of you think Kylington is the better bet.

Bizarre.

Keep em both. Trade someone else.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Keep em both. Trade someone else.

In three weeks is training camp.
If Weegar is not signed in two weeks he needs to be the one getting traded.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by shutout

In three weeks is training camp.

If Weegar is not signed in two weeks he needs to be the one getting traded.

This is silly. It won't happen.

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[Sandman]

I think that if Weegs absolutely won’t sign, it would be better to trade him sooner rather than later. We could get a nice haul for him.

I think Tre will sign him though.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I think that if Weegs absolutely won’t sign, it would be better to trade him sooner rather than later. We could get a nice haul for him.

I think Tre will sign him though.

Are there enough teams that would want that level of upgrade with cap space though?

But agreed, he signs.

[Your Calgary Flames!]

I was torn between trading a D for a forward. But now I say run it with the D we have if we sign Weegar. If Kylington takes another step this year and fixes a few of his issues. This will be a silly good D corps.