07-23-2021, 03:17 PM
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#181
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
And remember while it was reported that OEL was willing to consider other destinations this year, he probably was still only going to waive for VAN or BOS.
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Haha, so Vancouver had some leverage as well then. This is incredible.
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07-23-2021, 03:17 PM
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#182
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Arizona is having a wicked offseason.
OUT:
Conor Garland
OEL (1m retained)
IN:
2021 pick 9
2021 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
Cond. 2023 3rd
2022 7th
2023 7th
Shayne Gostisbehere
Antoine Roussel
Andrew Ladd
Loui Eriksson
Jay Beagle
They took on a few short-term bad contracts, added a really interesting player in Gostisbehere, retained $1m on the awful OEL deal they desperately needed to move, traded a guy in Garland who was at odds on a contract...
... And added a flat-out ridiculous number of draft picks.
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They're out Krakening the Kraken. Or what the Kraken should be doing.
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07-23-2021, 03:17 PM
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#183
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
This seems like
A bunch of short-term crap for a really large single piece of long-term crap
And then 9th overall for Garland
That's about it right?
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Don't forget the other two picks heading to Arizona!
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07-23-2021, 03:18 PM
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#184
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
So Calgary bemoans the fact their long time 38 year old captain had to be exposed and taken in the ED. AZ signs OEL to a huge contract at 27, makes him captain and then 3 years later gets him to waive his NMC, sells him off and cheers mightily for shedding his salary.
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... Yes?
Giordano is still good. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is... not. And he costs more, for a longer period.
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07-23-2021, 03:18 PM
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#185
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Also, the Canucks had a superior player in Toffoli, who they let walk, and then end up trading their first for Garland...horrible asset management.
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07-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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#186
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
At the end of the day the Canucks view OEL as having value. They said it last year, that they expect a change of scenery away from the tire fire that Arizona has been behind the scenes will give OEL a renewed lease on life.
Is that true? Probably not.
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It might be. I would guess that it will be. How much improved? That remains to be seen.
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07-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robo
Wow isn't that a ton to give up for oel?
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Crap for crap?
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07-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Arizona is having a wicked offseason.
... And added a flat-out ridiculous number of draft picks.
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That would be +8 in draft picks alone... in a couple day period... by one team... by Bingo's counting method. 
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07-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
This seems like
A bunch of short-term crap for a really large single piece of long-term crap
And then 9th overall for Garland
That's about it right?
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Oilers and Canucks both trading long term pain for short term improvements while the Flames have largely stood pat. I personally think all three franchises are going nowhere but it will be interesting to see if any of them can put together a run before they hit the gutter.
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07-23-2021, 03:20 PM
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#190
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Lol
I think the entire Coyotes fanbase is happy with the #### ton of picks they've acquired utilizing their cap space and going full rebuild with Wright/Bedard/Michkov coming up the next 2 years.
The Coyotes are rebuilding the absolute best way possible.
Want some extra salt to go with your salt?
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Absolutely crushing it. New arena in Tempe in a few years and a fully stocked roster + sign Auston Matthews as a UFA and we’re golden!
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07-23-2021, 03:20 PM
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#191
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Vancouver: Tanev, you are old at 30 and your $4.5Mx4 years contract ask is way too high, even though you are a stellar defensive Dman.
Also Vancouver: yes, 30 year old OEL, we wish to pay you $7M/y for 6 years despite the fact you are a really bad defenceman.
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07-23-2021, 03:20 PM
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#192
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
This seems like
A bunch of short-term crap for a really large single piece of long-term crap
And then 9th overall for Garland
That's about it right?
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And a 2nd to retain 12%. Or something.
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07-23-2021, 03:21 PM
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#193
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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As Morgan has been reporting, doesn't look like Garland had any future in the desert with his current contract situation
https://twitter.com/user/status/1418681614033244160
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07-23-2021, 03:21 PM
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#194
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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A canucks fan some where wished that Jim Benning would dump all the bad contracts in one go....
and the monkey paw's finger curled.
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07-23-2021, 03:21 PM
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#195
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan!
Absolutely crushing it. New arena in Tempe in a few years and a fully stocked roster + sign Auston Matthews as a UFA and we’re golden!
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If this happens I might have to start cheering for them. First you cripple Vancouver and then steal Toronto's golden child? Epic. Please happen.
EDIT: It just dawned on me. OEL is a left shot. Tyler Myers is a right shot. If they pair them together it could be the absolute worst value pairing in NHL history, ever. Like no one will ever top that.
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07-23-2021, 03:22 PM
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#196
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Canucks fan on the phone @ SN650...
"I mean, OEL is a SWEDISH DEFENSEMAN! Does anyone remember Nik Lindstrom??"
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07-23-2021, 03:22 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
... Yes?
Giordano is still good. Oliver Ekman-Larsson is... not. And he costs more, for a longer period.
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Yup, amazing isn't it.
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07-23-2021, 03:23 PM
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#198
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
A canucks fan some where wished that Jim Benning would dump all the bad contracts in one go....
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They would literally have been better off just trading all of them with the 9th overall pick and getting nothing in return at all.
Seriously.
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07-23-2021, 03:23 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Also, the Canucks had a superior player in Toffoli, who they let walk, and then end up trading their first for Garland...horrible asset management.
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and he'll probably cost more (than VAN was willing to pay Toffoli)
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07-23-2021, 03:24 PM
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#200
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
They're out Krakening the Kraken. Or what the Kraken should be doing.
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They can probably flip these guys on expiring contracts on the trade deadline to get even more draft picks.
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