[Rumour] TSN: Flames likely to be quiet at the trade deadline

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Is that true? Haven't teams been scratching players to protect them from injury so they can be traded all week?

Has there been a lot of this? Other than Palmieri, who was traded, and Hall, who is a higher value asset, I haven’t been paying close attention

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Treliving was also in talks about acquiring Anderson, and Dubois a few months ago. Ryan Pinder has stated that Monahan was being shopped at the last deadline. But, if things don't always go your way it is because you are "sitting on your hands."

There are red flags though when the GM is constantly in on players yet can never get a deal done.

[ComixZone]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1380540938397888518

Just rip it down in the off-season and qualify Bennett for 1 season. He’s a good centre for a year of rebuilding.

What an awful season for Flames fan. Truly horrific right from the get go.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

There are red flags though when the GM is constantly in on players yet can never get a deal done.

If the ask was Monahan for Anderson then this place would have gone nuts if that trade went down and I still wouldn't do that today even with Monahan's struggles.
My guess is that they were trying to get PLD included in a package of some kind.
I still hope Columbus would bite on Monahan for Laine.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Has there been a lot of this? Other than Palmieri, who was traded, and Hall, who is a higher value asset, I haven’t been paying close attention

Hall and Palmieri are good examples. Another good example would be Treliving holding out Bennett earlier this season. There may be other examples, but I don't have any off the top of my head. Or there may not be. You could be right. But I just think it makes sense to protect a player from injury in a meaningless game standings wise if that player may be traded in less than 48 hours.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^ Bennett being healthy scratched was not likely because he was getting traded

Punishment for on ice play? Perhaps. Coach sending a message? Perhaps. Team sending a message to not have a situation where your agent is airing dirty laundry, especially without talking to the team? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

^ Bennett being healthy scratched was not likely because he was getting traded

Punishment for on ice play? Perhaps. Coach sending a message? Perhaps. Team sending a message to not have a situation where your agent is airing dirty laundry, especially without talking to the team? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least

Okay, fair enough. I didn't think there was a reason given by the team, but I thought it came soon after his trade request, so I thought it made sense that it was for injury protection.

[Toonage]

People did think that though, and then the fake trade to Montreal surfaced.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Okay, fair enough. I didn't think there was a reason given by the team, but I thought it came soon after his trade request, so I thought it made sense that it was for injury protection.

* Nobody has ever confirmed a trade request, as far as I am aware. Friedman asked the agent if Bennett may be open to a change in scenery, and the agent said yes. Tre was pissed because that was the first he had heard of it.

If anyone has seen a straight confirmation of an actual request, I’d be interested to see it

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

* Nobody has ever confirmed a trade request, as far as I am aware. Friedman asked the agent if Bennett may be open to a change in scenery, and the agent said yes. Tre was pissed because that was the first he had heard of it.

If anyone has seen a straight confirmation of an actual request, I’d be interested to see it

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/a...trade-calgary/

The language was a little stronger than may be open to a change of scenery. It was "Bennett wants a change of scenery."

https://www.richmond-news.com/nation...trades-3308968

In the above article, the Canadian Press confirms that Darren Ferris told them Sam Bennett and Victor Mete have asked to be traded.

[Bingo]

We're not selling anyway!

With Montreal dropping two straight the Flames now only need to go 14-2-0 the rest of the way to get in!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/a...trade-calgary/

The language was a little stronger than may be open to a change of scenery. It was "Bennett wants a change of scenery."

https://www.richmond-news.com/nation...trades-3308968

In the above article, the Canadian Press confirms that Darren Ferris told them Sam Bennett and Victor Mete have asked to be traded.

He actually says “Bennett MIGHT want a change of scenery” “his agent says that’s true; he would like it to be CONSIDERED”

And I don’t see any quotes in the second link, so again I’m leaning towards spin/carefully used language to make a story.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^ what he said

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

* Nobody has ever confirmed a trade request, as far as I am aware. Friedman asked the agent if Bennett may be open to a change in scenery, and the agent said yes. Tre was pissed because that was the first he had heard of it.

If anyone has seen a straight confirmation of an actual request, I’d be interested to see it

Not sure what you need to see. Friedman asked Ferris if his client wanted to go elsewhere. (Change of scenery) Ferris said yes.

Then Bennett himself was interviewed the next day by Steinberg who asked him directly if he has requested a trade.

Instead of saying no, he gave this response.

“I think I’m just going to keep that between my agent and Treliving. I don’t really need to get into that much. My job is to just play hockey and do my job. I’m going to leave everything else to them.”

So what is he leaving to Treliving and his agent if he didnt want a trade?

I mean it's OK that he wants/wanted out....this happens all the time in the NHL but rarely made public.

Now maybe with the coaching change since all this happened, he has changed his tune, which is also OK but lets not try and re-write what is plainly obvious.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He actually says “Bennett MIGHT want a change of scenery” “his agent says that’s true; he would like it to be CONSIDERED”

And I don’t see any quotes in the second link, so again I’m leaning towards spin/carefully used language to make a story.

3:25-3:21

"But according to the agent for Sam Bennett, he would like a change of scenery."

And the second article confirms the trade request. The source is Ferris. "In an email to The Canadian Press, Ferris confirmed media reports that two of his clients, Montreal Canadiens defenceman Victor Mete and Calgary Flames forward Sam Bennett, have asked to be traded."

I think its pretty clear there was a trade request.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Nelson

3:25-3:21

"But according to the agent for Sam Bennett, he would like a change of scenery."

And the second article confirms the trade request. The source is Ferris. "In an email to The Canadian Press, Ferris confirmed media reports that two of his clients, Montreal Canadiens defenceman Victor Mete and Calgary Flames forward Sam Bennett, have asked to be traded."

I think its pretty clear there was a trade request.

I think it’s pretty clear there wasn’t, since the team wasn’t aware.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not sure what you need to see. Friedman asked Ferris if his client wanted to go elsewhere. (Change of scenery) Ferris said yes.

Then Bennett himself was interviewed the next day by Steinberg who asked him directly if he has requested a trade.

Instead of saying no, he gave this response.



So what is he leaving to Treliving and his agent if he didnt want a trade?

I mean it's OK that he wants/wanted out....this happens all the time in the NHL but rarely made public.

Now maybe with the coaching change since all this happened, he has changed his tune, which is also OK but lets not try and re-write what is plainly obvious.

Nobody is re writing anything

It was the same at the time. Neither Bennett nor the Flames flat out said he directly requested a trade

And yes, it was totally understandable if he did want an opportunity to expand his role.

But there is a difference between ‘I’d like a bigger role and if there is not opportunity here then I’m open to a change in scene’ and ‘trade me, dammit!’

I was looking for a direct quote from a principal party and there is not one that I am aware of

And again, Tre was not aware of it

[transplant99]

In an email to The Canadian Press, Ferris confirmed media reports that two of his clients, Montreal Canadiens defenceman Victor Mete and Calgary Flames forward Sam Bennett, have asked to be traded.

Not sure what else there is to say..

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not sure what else there is to say..

Hearsay

That article doesn’t even have a named author

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

There are red flags though when the GM is constantly in on players yet can never get a deal done.

Firstly, “can never get a deal done” is just hyperbole. He gets his fair share of deals done.

Second, every deal is unique. There’s no pattern to the deals that didn’t get done. Kadri was a NTC that wasn’t waived. Stone was price for a rental and the refusal to negotiate an extension. Anderson was likely simply price.

You have to count UFAs too, and not only was Treliving in on Markstrom - he got him, ahead of other bidders.

The only red flag I see is Kadri and Stone and supposedly other owners of MNTCs not wanting to come to Calgary which is less a Treliving issue and more of a city issue.