Election!

[MarchHare]

In 2005 I see where this sentament is coming from, but how fast people forget how we all felt Sept 11, 2001, the US went after those that they felt attacked them (or funded the attack). It's easy to say they should have done nothing, but honestly a country like the US can't sit back and do nothing when people attack New york.

Iraq did not attack New York. Saddam Hussein has never been in cohoots with bin Laden. In reaction to the sad events of Sept. 11, 2001, the US led a coalition of nations against bin Laden's terrorist network in Afghanistan and the brutal Taliban regime who harboured them. Canada was part of that coalition (as we should have been). We still have troops in Afghanistan now. One was even killed last week.

Once you understand that Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9/11, and that Hussein wasn't in possession of WMDs, you realize that the Liberal government absolutely made the correct decision in keeping our soldiers away from that war.

[Shawnski]

And the Canadian rodents, errr, voters... get ready to vote!!

[Shawnski]

The trend to go after the "youth" vote seems to be going too far....

[Shawnski]

And let us not forget the undecided voter, concerned over the Fiberal record...

[Shawnski]

And politicians in general go out of there way to help us understand their directions.....

[HOZ]

Worst riding in regards to picking a candidate????

Vancouver Central. Frey versus Sven Robinson

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

And the Canadian rodents, errr, voters... get ready to vote!!

LOL. I actually have that exact same pipe from my puffing days. Hard to tell from the pic, but it's a little dragon.

[FlamesAddiction]

I think it's actually a conservative lighting the pipe. You can tell by the American flag lighter.


Edit for smiley. Can't get mad at a smiley!!

[moon]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Iraq did not attack New York. Saddam Hussein has never been in cohoots with bin Laden. In reaction to the sad events of Sept. 11, 2001, the US led a coalition of nations against bin Laden's terrorist network in Afghanistan and the brutal Taliban regime who harboured them. Canada was part of that coalition (as we should have been). We still have troops in Afghanistan now. One was even killed last week.

Once you understand that Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9/11, and that Hussein wasn't in possession of WMDs, you realize that the Liberal government absolutely made the correct decision in keeping our soldiers away from that war.

Why can't you support them going in to Iraq to dispose of a dispicable leader and to open up the oil that is there. I have no problem with them doing it for those reasons. Not saying that those are the reasons why but the oil angle seems to be the one played by Anti-Bush/Iraq people and I have no problem with them going in for the oil.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by moon

Why can't you support them going in to Iraq to dispose of a dispicable leader and to open up the oil that is there. I have no problem with them doing it for those reasons. Not saying that those are the reasons why but the oil angle seems to be the one played by Anti-Bush/Iraq people and I have no problem with them going in for the oil.

As an Albertan, would you have a problem with them invading our province and killing a few hundred thousand of us, destroying Lethbridge and Calgary, turning out the lights and wrecking the infrastructure because they were going in for the oil?

[moon]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

As an Albertan, would you have a problem with them invading our province and killing a few hundred thousand of us, destroying Lethbridge and Calgary, turning out the lights and wrecking the infrastructure because they were going in for the oil?

I would as a citizen of Alberta yes. I don;t live in Iraq so I am much less sympathetic to their so-called plight.

I don;t think that is the sole justification myself but realise that was one of the factors and am okay with that.

Plus in Alberta millions aren't being killed by a ruthless dictator and we are lucky enough to have a great leader, which makes a difference in my mind.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

were going in for the oil?

Still beating that deadhorse are you?

It would have been easier to buy him off like the Germans and French were doing.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by moon

I would as a citizen of Alberta yes. I don;t live in Iraq so I am much less sympathetic to their so-called plight.

I don;t think that is the sole justification myself but realise that was one of the factors and am okay with that.

Plus in Alberta millions aren't being killed by a ruthless dictator and we are lucky enough to have a great leader, which makes a difference in my mind.

Isn't that just a little bit of a contradiction?

You don't care about Iraqi people dying but Iraqi people being killed by a dictator is a good reason to invade Iraq and kill a lot of Iraqis.

You don't live in Iraq so why do you care about a ruthless dictator?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Still beating that deadhorse are you?

It would have been easier to buy him off like the Germans and French were doing.

The Americans did that all through the 80s. Saddam Hussein decides to trade his oil in Euros, and suddenly the U.S. claims a moral high ground?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Still beating that deadhorse are you?

It would have been easier to buy him off like the Germans and French were doing.

Yeah you got me there. I keep forgetting about Saddam's hand in 9/11,the 45-minute plan, rolling biological weapons laboratories, underground fortresses, Nigerian uranium purchases and all that other stuff that was true.

I also forgot about George and Dick's lifelong commitment to democracy in Iraq. That's what this is all about. How could I forget?

[moon]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Isn't that just a little bit of a contradiction?

You don't care about Iraqi people dying but Iraqi people being killed by a dictator is a good reason to invade Iraq and kill a lot of Iraqis.

You don't live in Iraq so why do you care about a ruthless dictator?

IT is not so much that I don't care about the people dying in Iraq because of the results of the collateral damage of the war. Its just that I can handle that more than I can the murder of people by thier leader and if those same deaths as a results of war were occuring to my friends and neighbours.

[Calgary Flames]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You're a fat lazy slob who is sheltered because he doesn't do anything but hang out at his parents house.

Voting is important, you're an idiot if you think it's pathetic. And you wonder why no one in real life, or on this messageboard likes you.

Mission accomplished

[duncan]

Originally Posted by Ace

I'm old enough to remember that election, and that was a MAJOR election issue. The GST basically caused the Progressive Conservatives to be eliminated from the political scene, to the point that people we're debating if they could still be concidered a major party. The Liberals rode the coat tails of GST anger, and then 5 years later there was no real threat to the Liberals as the "right" was fighting itself.

The GST issue was important in 1993, but I don't believe the Liberals rode it to a landslide. One big factor was the lack of faith in Kim Campbell. I don't think Canada was ready for a female leader, and she lost her own riding. Campbell was a horrendous choice for Party Leader, she came off as arrogant and elitist, and was considered Canada's version of Marie Antionette.
The failure of the Meech Lake Accord, killed the PC's in Quebec. NAFTA destroyed them in Ontario (I can remember the t-shirts tradesmen had made, that had an eagle with a red, white and blue arm band, raping a beaver, with NAFTA in bold, blood red letters above it). The recession of the late 80's hit the east coast hard, especially central New Brunswick. The PC's were accused of attempting to cover up the Somalia scandal.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by duncan

The GST issue was important in 1993, but I don't believe the Liberals rode it to a landslide. One big factor was the lack of faith in Kim Campbell. I don't think Canada was ready for a female leader, and she lost her own riding. Campbell was a horrendous choice for Party Leader, she came off as arrogant and elitist, and was considered Canada's version of Marie Antionette.
The failure of the Meech Lake Accord, killed the PC's in Quebec. NAFTA destroyed them in Ontario (I can remember the t-shirts tradesmen had made, that had an eagle with a red, white and blue arm band, raping a beaver, with NAFTA in bold, blood red letters above it). The recession of the late 80's hit the east coast hard, especially central New Brunswick. The PC's were accused of attempting to cover up the Somalia scandal.

While Kim Campbell was incompetent, it was Mulroney before her that caused the PCs to lose that election. She was just the scapegoat. No one was going to vote PC after Mulroney.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FireFly

While Kim Campbell was incompetent, it was Mulroney before her that caused the PCs to lose that election. She was just the scapegoat. No one was going to vote PC after Mulroney.

According to Mulroney, he "carried Kim Campbell right to the front door of Sussex Drive", and she messed it all up.

Did anyone hear those secret Mulroney tapes? The guy is totally delusional.