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Old 10-11-2020, 06:30 PM   #181
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Why a NMC and NTC?
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:30 PM   #182
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Only way to save this offseason now is going after Toffoli..... Knowing Brad he's going to sign Hoffman
Give me Hoffman over Toffoli any day of the week.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:32 PM   #183
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They always say it’s not about the money. It’s about the money, very much like Barrie, it was probably the best offer.

He is not going to get better at 29.
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Why is is puzzling? Maybe Hall has a long term plan and some control over his destiny. Lots of players don't have that option.
Maybe he has a bad year or is injured....guy is 29, injury prone, and coming off a so so year. I would have gone for term but it's his career.

Also there is a better chance things are worse next summer IMO...what revenue is the league gonna have?
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:32 PM   #185
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What he do to you?
Shame on him for doing what he wants.
Im admittedly bitter. This could have been an opportunity for an asset windfall for the Flames. But of course it doesn't work out.
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Nothing says "we have a long term plan" to Eichel like signing a player who is clearly using your star to do a one-and-done detour in Buffalo.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:36 PM   #187
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Give me Hoffman over Toffoli any day of the week.
No thanks might as well just trade back for Neal less term before it blows up in your face.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:40 PM   #188
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Maybe he has a bad year or is injured

Agreed! There is some risk'involved for sure.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:41 PM   #189
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This is why I didn't want him here in the first place. Never struck me as a smart guy capable of good decisions.
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Hoffman and Toffoli are about on the same tier. I dont really have a preference either way.

But I do know we need another weapon up front.
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Lost some respect for Hall seeing there.
Straight after money only and not looking to win at all. Not the type of player you'd want at the core of your team.

I hope we don't get into the Hall sweepstakes next off season.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:44 PM   #192
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Why a NMC and NTC?
Because it gives him total control on where he goes if Buffalo wants to trade him. There is a good chance that they try to trade him at the deadline.
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:45 PM   #193
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Nothing says "we have a long term plan" to Eichel like signing a player who is clearly using your star to do a one-and-done detour in Buffalo.
I don’t know, maybe he plans on jumping back in with a 8 year deal with them.
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Lost some respect for Hall seeing there.
Straight after money only and not looking to win at all. Not the type of player you'd want at the core of your team.

I hope we don't get into the Hall sweepstakes next off season.

Unless Buffalo is doing well, I expect there to be a Hall sweepstakes this season at the deadline.
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The Flames will be in a worse position next off-season to sign a big ticket as they currently have less than 18M in cap space and only 11 players signed.
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Why a NMC and NTC?
So if they want to trade him at the deadline he has control over where he goes
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Hoffman and Toffoli are about on the same tier. I dont really have a preference either way.

But I do know we need another weapon up front.
Toffoli please
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Old 10-11-2020, 06:50 PM   #198
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I was hoping we could sign Hall and flip Johnny but I really think Covid mucked up free agency and don't know how they could trade Johnny for picks to any team without taking salary back.

I'm just happy we looked after goaltending and am also happy with Tanev replacing Brodie.

Definitely feel better coming into this season versus last season. If we don't see a hockey trade we just have to hope Johnny and Monahan get it together and that guys like Mangiapane and Dube push up the lineup.
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Im admittedly bitter. This could have been an opportunity for an asset windfall for the Flames. But of course it doesn't work out.
I dont blame ya i certainly was hoping Taylor came here as well.
I honestly think this is the best scenario tho if we didnt get him.
To a middling eastern team, on a one year deal, and certainly still leaves the door open for us to unite next offseason.
I, like others, see this as a means to an end.
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Lost some respect for Hall seeing there.
Straight after money only and not looking to win at all. Not the type of player you'd want at the core of your team.

I hope we don't get into the Hall sweepstakes next off season.
Or maybe he has somewhere he really wants to play that is somewhere that could win, but they just can’t free the cap space right now despite trying. So he sings a good money one year deal now with full control and controls a trade at the deadline to that team or tries again next year?

That may not be true at all, but we shouldn’t jump to conclusions on what this means, especially given he didn’t take term with Buf.
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