11-26-2019, 06:54 PM
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#181
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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11-26-2019, 06:57 PM
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#182
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All I can get
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The floodgates are opening. I bet there's a lot of worried hockey executives tonight.
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11-26-2019, 06:57 PM
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#183
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DropIt
Huska please, before he gets scooped up
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This has been Stockton's best season, like ever... and its sans Huska. Just sayin....
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11-26-2019, 06:58 PM
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#184
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
The floodgates are opening. I bet there's a lot of worried hockey executives tonight.
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no kidding
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11-26-2019, 06:59 PM
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#185
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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God dammit.
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11-26-2019, 07:01 PM
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#186
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by DropIt
Huska please, before he gets scooped up
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And what do you base that on? Did you watch the Heat play?
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11-26-2019, 07:03 PM
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#187
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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The Sutters are hard on their players, like really really hard, but i doubt it crosses the line into "abuse" per se.
What Peters did was way over the line of decency and comes with severe consequences, but being hard on players to get them motivated is a different animal all together.
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11-26-2019, 07:05 PM
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#188
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by transplant99
The Sutters are hard on their players, like really really hard, but i doubt it crosses the line into "abuse" per se.
What Peters did was way over the line of decency and comes with severe consequences, but being hard on players to get them motivated is a different animal all together.
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But there’s a tweet that’s says they were. Case closed.
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11-26-2019, 07:06 PM
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#189
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by transplant99
The Sutters are hard on their players, like really really hard, but i doubt it crosses the line into "abuse" per se.
What Peters did was way over the line of decency and comes with severe consequences, but being hard on players to get them motivated is a different animal all together.
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Except maybe that time Brian tried to fight Tyler Arnasson in a bar?
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11-26-2019, 07:08 PM
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#190
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
But there’s a tweet that’s says they were. Case closed.
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What Carcillo considers "abuse", I have no idea, but there would have to be corroboration attached to a specific incident fir this to even make a headline.
Not saying nothing ever happened, because i dont know, but I do know that former players love Darryl and Brian...which doesnt sound much at all like they were "abused".
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11-26-2019, 07:09 PM
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#191
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Scoring Winger
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Now I am being serious.....Joel Otto
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11-26-2019, 07:11 PM
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#192
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Except maybe that time Brian tried to fight Tyler Arnasson in a bar?
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Meh....bar scraps used to happen all the time...at all levels of pro hockey.
But if we are going to start disqualifying people from working in the NHL because they used to fight? Not going to be enough guys around to fill the jobs.
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11-26-2019, 07:14 PM
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#193
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Meh....bar scraps used to happen all the time...at all levels of pro hockey.
But if we are going to start disqualifying people from working in the NHL because they used to fight? Not going to be enough guys around to fill the jobs.
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Did scraps between players and coaches really happen all the time at the NHL level?
Like, I know Keenan used to strap on the pads and get into during a practice, and obviously Brian and Arnasson, but I honestly don't know of any other examples.
Was Paul Baxter chuckin' knucks at the Roxy post game? 
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11-26-2019, 07:15 PM
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#194
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Franchise Player
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Try Ron, Rich, or Duane...if we collect all 6 we'll have a full set!
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11-26-2019, 07:15 PM
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#195
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by btimbit
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I hope he and others aren't stretching the meaning of abuse.
Getting yelled at, bag skated and kicking garbage cans doesnt qualify. Commodore has already called out coaches and he claimed he had no issues with Sutter's ways, so I'm a little more skeptical.
Basically I dont like seeing prominent names getting smeared just for these players to get back at coaches they didn't jive with. It has to be with good cause.
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11-26-2019, 07:16 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Originally Posted by sempuki
And what do you base that on? Did you watch the Heat play?
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Did you see those teams?
I base it on player development, notably defensemen.
Tyson Barrie, Shea Weber, Duncan Keith, Jamie Benn, Tyler Myers, Mikael Backlund, etc.
All guys he developed as Head coach or defensive assistant. People seem to enjoy the progress Rasmus Anderson and Oliver Kylington have made over the past 3 seasons.
Huska has also never had a winning percentage below .500 as a head coach in his career
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11-26-2019, 07:19 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Otto29
Now I am being serious.....Joel Otto
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I seem to recall that Joel isn't interested in NHL jobs because of the travel and desire to be close to his family as much as possible.
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11-26-2019, 07:19 PM
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#198
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
No point in trying to guess as Treliving in his two hires as seemed to avoid the obvious choice as he's gone with coaches that haven't had a lot of success prior to being hired by the Flames. Given the build of this roster and win-now mode he may have to look at a coach that has some experience. Maybe a guy like Laviolette becomes available in the offseason or he looks at a top assistant from a successful team. It will be interesting to see what happens but after three coaches he should have a better feeling about the type of personality needed to coach this team.
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No F*&^%%$ way to Laviolette. Idiot ran Philly's two best players out of town to LA and they one 2 cups for them didn't they?
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11-26-2019, 07:19 PM
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#199
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In the Sin Bin
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Who should be the next coach of the flames?
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Originally Posted by Dragomir
Bring back Bob!!
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I could see him coming onto the ice with Hulk Hogan’s music playing for some reason.
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11-26-2019, 07:21 PM
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#200
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
What Carcillo considers "abuse", I have no idea, but there would have to be corroboration attached to a specific incident fir this to even make a headline.
Not saying nothing ever happened, because i dont know, but I do know that former players love Darryl and Brian...which doesnt sound much at all like they were "abused".
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The problem is abuse is a very hard thing to define.
What started this was something that was more definitive - use of a racist term. That's easy to identify.
Physical abuse is also easier.
But when you get into these other areas of mental/emotional abuse, bullying, manipulation, etc - it gets a little more ambiguous.
I'm of the mind that hockey needs to go through a pretty big culture shift and if this is the catalyst for that - I'm all for it.
But I don't know that means that we can look back and start to examine the way that coaches behaved years ago.
I suspect there are things that many coaches (including the Sutters did) that were acceptable then that aren't now.
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