[PGT] Flames 1 Jets 2

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I’m just curious for those that believe the officials have an anti Flames bias. And that the national broadcasting crew are also anti Flames.

What is the reason for these people to have this bias? And in favor of teams like Winnipeg and Edmonton no less.

I'm not a tin hat guy, I can sort of see their point once and a while, but I think most fan bases feel the same from what I gathered.

I did read an article a few years ago though about the East/West thing in Canada and that there is a resentment to Calgary becoming a financial center in the West and how that has bleeded into political commentary and reporting. Could apply to some degree.

The biggest time I noticed it was about 20 years ago in a show about Canada's best 50 inventions. There was the light bulb of course, and then a whole bunch of interesting but silly ones that came up. The guy that hosted it though literally made fun of the ones from Calgary as being meaningless and silly. Really stood out to me.

Ginger beef and the Caesar.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

I think I’m more pissed off that Lowry still has all his teeth than anything.

I guarantee Hamonic/Bennett/Lucic were all told, “don’t fight him, you’ll get an instiigator and we’ll lose”

Well you lost anyways, so good job. Since game 1 of the playoffs, all the team has done is try not to lose. This team doesn’t have the focus to play 60 minutes of that every night and the consequences are unfolding. Play with passion, play on instinct and I think the results will improve.

Yeah I don't think the Flames invented the "don't jump someone in a one goal game" mantra.

Bennett tried like hell in the moment, and I'm sure Lucic was thinking if we can get up three in the third I'm making this outdoor game memorable but it didn't happen.

[Shazam]

The officiating has been atrocious all over the league this year. I think the game is simply too fast for them now.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Ginger beef and the Caesar.

#1 invention of all time

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I’m just curious for those that believe the officials have an anti Flames bias. And that the national broadcasting crew are also anti Flames.

What is the reason for these people to have this bias? And in favor of teams like Winnipeg and Edmonton no less.

Something changed once the playoffs started. It does feel like the officials are calling infractions on the Flames that the opposition get away with. Not sure if a lot of teams maybe complained and they were getting away with too much and it's hard to focus on a team without picking on them relative to how they would normally call things. Flames do have undisciplined players like Backlund, Bennett, Frolik, etc that are always going to take bad penalties but I fully believe that the officials have not cut the Flames any slack.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I’m just curious for those that believe the officials have an anti Flames bias. And that the national broadcasting crew are also anti Flames.

What is the reason for these people to have this bias? And in favor of teams like Winnipeg and Edmonton no less.

I don't think it's so much a Flames thing. NHL officiating is just incompetent and feels the need to play a part in the result of a close game.

As for Hughson he's a Canucks fan. I'm pretty confident had it been the Canucks or even the Leafs playing the Jets he wouldn't have felt the need to constantly bring up the first goal. I cringe every time that idiot calls a Flames game.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I’m just curious for those that believe the officials have an anti Flames bias. And that the national broadcasting crew are also anti Flames.

What is the reason for these people to have this bias? And in favor of teams like Winnipeg and Edmonton no less.

I don’t think there is an “anti Flames” bias, but from my perspective the ice was tilted in Winnipeg’s favour all night. The calls on Bennett and Giordano were terrible, and while the first penalty on Monahan was legitimate, it occurred only because a Jets player got his stick into Brodie’s hands to cause a turnover that Monahan cleared over the glass. Lowrey’s boarding infraction was a textbook instance of a major, and yet he received only two mins for it.

It’s just one game, but it really felt that Winnipeg was getting all the breaks last night. So much so that I was shocked that Calgary’s goal was counted. Not because it was the wrong call, but because everything else seemed to be going Winnipeg’s way.

Those sorts of games happen from time to time.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

I can’t say I was watching game too closely but reading comments about defensive shell is concerning. I understand situational awareness and everything (don’t turn pucks over at blue line etc) but a hallmark of this team should be to relentlessly apply pressure.

Last year is last year but the team just kept stepping on the gas and we would see tons of goals in the third. They were just constantly making plays because the team was full of confidence.

I see a lot of really good play from CGY but some lapses or bad breaks. Mentally, they have to contain those and stick with he aggressive, fast play. I’m positive this team is going to erupt with confidence and tremendous hockey - swagger.

I have no doubt in this team. To me their talent is jumping out and they will play with great confidence.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Something changed once the playoffs started. It does feel like the officials are calling infractions on the Flames that the opposition get away with. Not sure if a lot of teams maybe complained and they were getting away with too much and it's hard to focus on a team without picking on them relative to how they would normally call things. Flames do have undisciplined players like Backlund, Bennett, Frolik, etc that are always going to take bad penalties but I fully believe that the Flames have not cut the Flames any slack.

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to explain how they went from being one of the best teams in terms of penalty differential to the most penalized team in the League.

I don’t think there is much question that officials are calling them differently from last year. It’s weird.


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[robertsfanatic]

Is it possible that Johnny wasn't on the ice because of the bad defensive play he made earlier in the OT?
He went to the same man as Gio and I think that was when Laine hit the crossbar.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Thought the first line of Lindholm, Tkachuk and Gaudreau looked quite good last night. They were generating a lot of chances fairly consistently, just couldn't pot one.

The Monahan, Bennet, Mangiapane line had moments but I still feel Bennett's game isn't sharp enough for a top 6 role. Too often perfect passes bounce off his stick, he loses the puck, or he just takes too long to make a pass and has to throw the puck up the boards. He has some nice moves here and there but ultimately he usually follows up that nice move with a turnover, a missed pass, falling over, or missing the net entirely on his shot; it all just looks a little chaotic. Really frustrating player to watch.

Thought the Backlund-Frolik-Lucic line looked pretty good, its too bad no one on that line can really finish as they actually had a few good looks.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to explain how they went from being one of the best teams in terms of penalty differential to the most penalized team in the League.

I don’t think there is much question that officials are calling them differently from last year. It’s weird.


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The Flames just don't draw penalties anymore. Zero powerplays in the Ducks game, less than the opponent in many of them. Their PP is good, but the old adage " you need to win the special teams battle" can't be applied so far this year. The Flames opponents simply don't get called for the same kind of infractions.

[red sky]

Yeah, I thought Bennett was the worst Flame last night. For all the reasons above.

[Owen15]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don’t think there is an “anti Flames” bias, but from my perspective the ice was tilted in Winnipeg’s favour all night. The calls on Bennett and Giordano were terrible, and while the first penalty on Monahan was legitimate, it occurred only because a Jets player got his stick into Brodie’s hands to cause a turnover that Monahan cleared over the glass. Lowrey’s boarding infraction was a textbook instance of a major, and yet he received only two mins for it.

It’s just one game, but it really felt that Winnipeg was getting all the breaks last night. So much so that I was shocked that Calgary’s goal was counted. Not because it was the wrong call, but because everything else seemed to be going Winnipeg’s way.

Those sorts of games happen from time to time.


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This is what I meant, more of an in game bias last night. I do think the NHL has a major issue with refereeing though. If the NHL wants to build gambling revenue they just can’t have referees making calls according to the point in the season, what point in the game is it, who is playing, who is winning and by how much.

[Robo]

Why not put lucic where Bennett was the guy is a beast along the boards and causes alot of turnovers also has been one of the better flames for the past couple weeks

[DeluxeMoustache]

Peters does not get a passing grade for this event

Weird coaching move to break out the blender for a marquee game. This is exactly the kind of event where there is already added motivation.

As for Ryan 3 on 3? Undeserved based on performance year to date.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don’t think there is an “anti Flames” bias, but from my perspective the ice was tilted in Winnipeg’s favour all night. The calls on Bennett and Giordano were terrible, and while the first penalty on Monahan was legitimate, it occurred only because a Jets player got his stick into Brodie’s hands to cause a turnover that Monahan cleared over the glass. Lowrey’s boarding infraction was a textbook instance of a major, and yet he received only two mins for it.

It’s just one game, but it really felt that Winnipeg was getting all the breaks last night. So much so that I was shocked that Calgary’s goal was counted. Not because it was the wrong call, but because everything else seemed to be going Winnipeg’s way.

Those sorts of games happen from time to time.


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Do they ever happen in the Flames favor?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Do they ever happen in the Flames favor?

I think they probably happen for all teams. It's unsurprising that when it does happen in Calgary's favour that it is not talked of much on a fan site.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Peters does not get a passing grade for this event

Weird coaching move to break out the blender for a marquee game. This is exactly the kind of event where there is already added motivation.

As for Ryan 3 on 3? Undeserved based on performance year to date.

And yet, all of these new lines actually look quite good in this game. So, maybe not such a coaching failure if it produces fruit at some point in the season beyond last night.

[Manhattanboy]

Jets had 45 shots on goal. Not much concern expressed.