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Old 10-11-2019, 10:09 AM   #181
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I think it would be a great experiment to see Monahan take some reps on the PK; most of the elite Centers in the league appear on both sides of special teams play and I feel Monahan could really excel at this. Him and Lindholm are true puck hounds and have experience trading off strong side face offs already so it makes a ton of sense to me to try Mony on the PK.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:14 AM   #183
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Was absolutely incredible; one of the fastest periods of hockey I’ve seen so far early into the season and that’s not talking about just Flames games.
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I think it would be a great experiment to see Monahan take some reps on the PK; most of the elite Centers in the league appear on both sides of special teams play and I feel Monahan could really excel at this. Him and Lindholm are true puck hounds and have experience trading off strong side face offs already so it makes a ton of sense to me to try Mony on the PK.
He used to PK under Hartley and I recall he was pretty decent at it.
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I'd like to see Monahan given some PK time instead of Jankowski. I think he is the best face-off guy on the Flames right now. Monahan is also playing a lot better defensively and I believe he will rise to the challenge and improve his defensive game even further. Also, Monahan and Lindholm seem like they would constantly provide a short handed threat. Finally, I think that Jankowski has been the weakest link on a pretty good penalty kill.


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He's probably more adequate than Jankowski on the PK. But now you are adding miles to your #1C who is expected to shoulder most of the offense and you don't necessarily want him taking dingers off his ankles from the point. He gets enough rough stuff in the offensive slot.

Plus, what does Janko do at that point if not PK.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:29 AM   #186
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Playing monahan on the PK is a waste of his potential icetime IMO.

If anything I'd be using him even more on the powerplay than they already are.

Worst case scenario you put Backlund out as the #1 pk centre and Lindholm out as the #2 pk centre.

What kind of sucks right now is the imbalance between bottom 6 guys not being very good penalty killers. It's sort of a 'what would you say you do around here' situation. If Bennett and Lucic can't kill penalties, are they really third liners?

I like Lindholm a lot so on the one hand give him as many minutes as possible. On the other hand, wouldn't it be great if a hugely important part of the top line, one of the most productive lines in the league, didn't have to kill penalties all the time?

What if, after a penalty, the Flames could hit right back with their top line intact, rather than with Lucic out there rumbling around?
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Hanifin was magnificent yesterday. Easy to forget how young he still is ... scary upside.
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Was nice to see the Flames not completely outclassed in a 1st period. That was a big step IMO.

Had twice as many penalties as the opposition with 4 but thats actually a minor improvement as well.

Monahan and Hanifin both seem to be stronger, faster, and look really really good.

Rittich was great but I gotta say it was his post game interview that had me really loving his game, "do you know my record?? Dont like at it"

For a team that typically starts slow, this has been a pretty good start to the season overall.

Really curious to see how we prevail in a back to back scenario now this weekend.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:39 AM   #189
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Yeah, Janko really needs to watch his PK shifts last year. It is like he forgot how to PK
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:40 AM   #190
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Yeah, Janko really needs to watch his PK shifts last year. It is like he forgot how to PK
Was he usually on with Hathaway?
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:43 AM   #191
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I think it's very reassuring that both Hanifin and Rittich seem to have come even further over the course of the offseason.

Their development into top-tier players would mean so much for the future success of the franchise

Rittich especially looks like a true number-one guy.
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Hanifin was magnificent yesterday. Easy to forget how young he still is ... scary upside.
Hanifin definitely looks like he has taken another step this year. All the more reason for Tre to extend Hamonic ASAP, those two are rock solid together. I actually didn't even mind Brodie/Stone for the third paring.
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Hanifin definitely looks like he has taken another step this year. All the more reason for Tre to extend Hamonic ASAP, those two are rock solid together. I actually didn't even mind Brodie/Stone for the third paring.
agrewd, hoping for a new Hamonic contract as well. Hoped it'd get done in the summer but Tre was obviously busy with Chucky. Retaining him would be also be great for the locker room I think, he's one that the younger defensemen could benefit from.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:30 AM   #194
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In the third, Mangiapane had the puck in the same position. He drove around, and at least the puck ended up somewhere near the net, and the play continued for a while (I think a line change was in order). Safe, with a possibility of something good.

Bennett's case - even if he pulls the puck around, he's still out near the blue line, with other defenders between him and the goal, and we all saw the high risk downside.

Bennett's 23. But so is Mangiapane.
Mangiapane is a good example. You also need not look further than Noah Hanifin -- who is only 22 -- to see it as well. It's already been posted so I won't repeat it here but what we're starting to see in Hanifin is how your game matures -- you learn what you need to do to be successful at the NHL level and then build from there. You don't keep going back to what might have worked in junior, in order to fill a role you think you can fill.
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Bennett has been doing this since he joined the Flames. Obviously before that too but lets focus on the NHL level. How many coaches since then? How has this not been coached out of him yet?
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Bennett has been doing this since he joined the Flames. Obviously before that too but lets focus on the NHL level. How many coaches since then? How has this not been coached out of him yet?

Can lead a horse to water etc. It is on Bennett at this point
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This bizarre narrative about the Flames supposed dearth of forward depth is already very tiresome. They are one of the deepest teams in the NHL; it is an exceptionally well constructed roster. I just don’t get it.


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I find it quite baffling. The Flames not only have 4 near PPG forwards, but they have many guys who typcically hover around or even above .5 ppg: Backlund, Ryan, and Frolik. Even guys like Jankowski and Bennett, who get a lot of flack for their lack of production, put up a 30 point pace from the bottom 6.

The Flames have many way to score on their opponents.
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I find it quite baffling. The Flames not only have 4 near PPG forwards, but they have many guys who typcically hover around or even above .5 ppg: Backlund, Ryan, and Frolik. Even guys like Jankowski and Bennett, who get a lot of flack for their lack of production, put up a 30 point pace from the bottom 6.

The Flames have many way to score on their opponents.
And that is to say nothing for their defense, which also boasts plenty of quality offensive weaponry.
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That goal is similar to a goal that Fleury scored on Ranford many many years ago. The only difference was Fleury totally made Ranford look so bad as he turned him inside out and then just tapped it into the net at the corner of the right post.
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That goal is similar to a goal that Fleury scored on Ranford many many years ago. The only difference was Fleury totally made Ranford look so bad as he turned him inside out and then just tapped it into the net at the corner of the right post.
I think I remember it. Didn't an Oiler crosscheck Fleury right into the crossbar right after? IIRC it was a breakaway, not a penalty shot so someone (Smith?) was chasing him.
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