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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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30.35% |
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Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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28.81% |
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Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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07-19-2019, 02:06 PM
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#181
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Ferland for 4 years looking absolutely incredible right now.
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07-19-2019, 02:06 PM
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#182
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Franchise Player
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Who knew trading a fourth liner for a fourth liner would be so upsetting.
At least with Neal you've got a guy who is hopefully primed for a bit of a bounceback season. I do take solace in the fact that Neal couldn't keep up with Gaudreau and Monahan, so good luck with McDavid. Meanwhile, I guess Lucic can still be a facepuncher which is something we don't have...
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07-19-2019, 02:06 PM
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#183
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Please please please be at least 2.5 mil retained and at least a 2nd rounder
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#184
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
Brouwer, Lazar, Neal, Lucic..... not sure how Treliving seems to get off the hook here always.
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Mason Raymond makes up it...
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
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I would think that being from Vancouver Lucic would probably waive his NMC for the Seattle expansion draft
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#186
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Does anybody know how many years left on each contact? I feel like lucic should have less...
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
Brouwer, Lazar, Neal, Lucic..... not sure how Treliving seems to get off the hook here always.
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A team that finished 2nd in the NHL last season, incredible contract negotiations, solid scouting/drafting record.
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#188
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Scoring Winger
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Serious question: Could each team retain salary on their player in a trade? That would be a good move to lure seattle into a pick on either of these guys, or to make both pieces more tradeable in the future? It could also essentially balance the value on both players, and the team essentially gets a mini-buyout on their cap for the contract number of years, rather then x2 the years?
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
Brouwer, Lazar, Neal, Lucic..... not sure how Treliving seems to get off the hook here always.
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This one, this specific trade as it stands is a very large black mark on Tree for me. Means nothing in the grand scheme of things but the foundation of my faith in our GM just took a major seismic shock and is now crumbling.
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#190
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Can the flames buy him out?
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#191
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I wouldn't hold any bad feelings if Lucic chose to exercise his NMC and nix this trade to Calgary like Kadri did.
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07-19-2019, 02:07 PM
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#192
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmerkel3d
Does anybody know how many years left on each contact? I feel like lucic should have less...
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Both 4 years left
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#193
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmerkel3d
Does anybody know how many years left on each contact? I feel like lucic should have less...
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Both four, same term. Likely smaller cap-hit for Lucic. Both should be eating popcorn in the pressbox with the Flames, so it's a win especially if they get a pick.
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#194
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Ferland for 4 years looking absolutely incredible right now.
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How is that relevant?
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#195
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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A trade for bottom six forwards and the Flames get cap relief and a pick, I’m down for, but still a little worried about expansion draft
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#196
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Franchise Player
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I don't like this. I thought Lucic was under contract for two more years - it's four.
This is a whole heap of why bother. Buy James Neal out - 8 years of $1.5M in dead money on a cap that's going to be over $90M in five sucks, but it doesn't suck as much as Milan Lucic.
Who we now can't even buy out to regain cap because his bonuses are so ####ed.
I don't like it. I'm willing to be wrong. I don't think I am. Some of this depends on retention - Lucic @ 50% is livable.
10% retention is only a savings of 600k - I'd rather have Neal.
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#197
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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What is the likelihood that Lucic's spinal condition becomes career-ending shockingly quickly after being diagnosed by comptent (Non-Edmontonian) Doctors?
That would be quite the M. Night Shyamalanian twist...
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#198
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cancun
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$200 that Neal drops the gloves, in the first regular season head to head?
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#199
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Well, people here were also surprised at what some thought was a lacklustre trade in Hamilton to Carolina. Tre has proven us wrong in the past. Who's to say that Lucic won't also return to a reasonable contributor along with his face punching prowess outside of the suckhole to the north.
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07-19-2019, 02:08 PM
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#200
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iggy_oi
I would think that being from Vancouver Lucic would probably waive his NMC for the Seattle expansion draft
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The thing for Lucic should be to know that there is no way he will be selected in the expansion draft anyway. Whether he waives or not, the result will be the same for him.
Waiving, however, does a favour for the team he plays for.
Hopefully both parties realize this.
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