Matthew Tkachuk’s Next Contract

[Kybb79]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I still think it will be Monahan.

I thought Monahan would be but Chucky is making this his team. Leading in more ways.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

I thought Monahan would be but Chucky is making this his team. Leading in more ways.

Either way, nice problem to have

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

I thought Monahan would be but Chucky is making this his team. Leading in more ways.

He’s also great at stirring the pot by face washing guys, pulling goalie helmets off, etc...

You don’t want that to go away, and that’s what putting another C on his jersey would do.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Huge difference. Chicago kept and paid all of their core players. They only changed the supporting players.

You talked about letting Johnny, Monny, Tkachuk, Lindholm Hanifin go before their contracts expired.

Chicago got rid of the Stone, Neal, Frolik types.

There won’t be any concerns for the Flames losing their core. Treliving has it set up almost perfect

Johnny UFA - Gio 6.75 expires
Monahan UFA - Neal 5.75 expires
Hanifin and Lindholm UFA - Backlund expires

If Tkachuk signs a 7 or 8 year deal only real concerns is replacing Gio and Backlund. To this point Neal is easily replaceable

Only way this gets derailed is if they get very aggressive in adding a big contract. I assume BT only does this if he feels the team is on the verge of a cup

[Kybb79]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He’s also great at stirring the pot by face washing guys, pulling goalie helmets off, etc...

You don’t want that to go away, and that’s what putting another C on his jersey would do.

He has cleaned the dirty stuff up but in big nasty games Chucky shines.

[Tyler]

[Captaincanada80]

Another 2 Geno’s in first 12min. Man this is gonna cost a lot

Edit: oops 1G 1A

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

So, how would you guys rank this group? That could be a good starting point to determining Tkachuk's value.

I might go ...
· Matthews
· Laine
· Aho
· Point
· Tkachuk
· Marner
· Rantanan
· Connor
· Boeser

I think Matthews and Laine are in a class on their own, and then have #3–7 bunched together—but Aho is firmly atop that group, with Connor and Boeser in the third tier.

... this is hard.

Athletic had a top 100 under 25 list and had it

Matthews 2
Laine 5
Aho 12
Marner 13
Rantanan 16
Boeser 17
Tkachuk 18
Point 20
Connor 29

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

So, how would you guys rank this group? That could be a good starting point to determining Tkachuk's value.

I might go ...
· Matthews
· Laine
· Aho
· Point
· Tkachuk
· Marner
· Rantanan
· Connor
· Boeser

I think Matthews and Laine are in a class on their own, and then have #3–7 bunched together—but Aho is firmly atop that group, with Connor and Boeser in the third tier.

... this is hard.

Rantanen is on pace for 130+ points. 34 points right now playing in his 21st game of the season. Leading the league. Not quite sure I'd have Aho ahead of him, not quite sure I would have Laine...

[jonkaupp]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He’s also great at stirring the pot by face washing guys, pulling goalie helmets off, etc...

You don’t want that to go away, and that’s what putting another C on his jersey would do.

Never stopped his dad

[jonkaupp]

I wouldn’t put Laine in Matthews class. He’s a hell of a player but he’s largely an amazing shot, doesn’t drive play like the guy he’s often compared to in Ovechkin. I’d say most players in that list are pretty much in the same class. Rantanen could be moving into Matthews class if he keeps this up over the whole season.

[Bunk]

Chucky sits 6th in league scoring. RIP our cap.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Relax. RFAs aren’t UFAs

Tkachuk is awesome, and the team has his rights. Beautiful. Nice problem to have

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He’s also great at stirring the pot by face washing guys, pulling goalie helmets off, etc...

You don’t want that to go away, and that’s what putting another C on his jersey would do.

I agree 100%, keep the A on him and give Monahan the C. Let Chucky continue to be that pest and be an amazing producer.

$8x8 would be nice, anything more is an over payment and any less term is too short.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Rantanen is on pace for 130+ points. 34 points right now playing in his 21st game of the season. Leading the league. Not quite sure I'd have Aho ahead of him, not quite sure I would have Laine...

I hear what you are saying, but Rantanen plays with the second-best player drafted since Sidney Crosby. He’s great. I am just not sure how great he is.


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by jonkaupp

Never stopped his dad

It’s a different League today than when Keith Tkachuk played.


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Athletic had a top 100 under 25 list and had it



Matthews 2

Laine 5

Aho 12

Marner 13

Rantanan 16

Boeser 17

Tkachuk 18

Point 20

Connor 29

That looks about right to me, but there is no way in hell I would have Boeser ahead of both Tkachuk and Point. This early season is certainly showing how tremendously important a player he is to the Flames.


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[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I hear what you are saying, but Rantanen plays with the second-best player drafted since Sidney Crosby. He’s great. I am just not sure how great he is.

Mackinnon had two 50 point seasons before Rantanen burst through in his sophomore season. This included a year playing with Duchene and Landeskog where he put up 52 points, when Duchene had 59 and Landeskog had 53. There was a lot of problems in Colorado, true, but maybe Mackinnon also benefits from playing with Rantanen like Rantanen does playing with Mackinnon.

Also, Malkin, Ovechkin and McDavid were all drafted after Crosby...

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That looks about right to me, but there is no way in hell I would have Boeser ahead of both Tkachuk and Point. This early season is certainly showing how tremendously important a player he is to the Flames.

In the off-season having Boeser ahead of Tkachuk and Point was a perfectly fair assessment in my opinion. Boeser was on pace for around 40 goals playing with scrubs on a bad team. Now they jumped ahead of him, as young players will do.

Where's Mathew "traded for Griffin Reinhart" Barzal fit in all of this? (Edit: Oh, RFA the next year).

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Also, Malkin, Ovechkin and McDavid were all drafted after Crosby...

Ovechkin and Malkin were the top-2 picks of the 2004 Draft.