[Trade] Flames acquire Nick Shore from Ottawa for a 2019 7th

[mrdonkey]

Overall I'm happy to see the Flames didn't misconstrue their situation. They are a borderline playoff team, so it doesn't make sense to go for a big splash unless you can land a core piece. Hoffman was the only one potentially available who made sense. Very reminiscent of the deadline where our "big moves" were Brett Carson and Freddy Modin.

That said, it's a bit disappointing that this is the situation we find ourselves in after going all-in during the offseason. Hopefully fixing the RW mess is a priority this summer.

Edit: regarding Stajan, he'll get enough games to reach 1000 just as a way of saying thanks, and probably no more than that. Matt Stajan is a nice guy but absolutely not a player who gets guaranteed icetime on a team with playoff aspirations.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Karl

He's been playing too well lately.

I agree he's been a lot better. But "never go to the stands" seems like an overstatement. Firstly because it's happened already, so there's not some unwritten rule about Stajan and secondly because the new guys are going to need a shot. Assuming Ferland's out they still have to sit Brouwer, Hathaway, Stajan or Lazar. Let's assume it's Garnet. When Ferland's back, two have to be out, and that's where I think Stajan might get a seat. The thrid reason is just because of wear and tear - he got hit hard last game and gets hit a lot in general.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by crdr

Fans hate him. The players on the team love him. That's all that matters.

Lovely, he can hang out with them in the room as a healthy scratch before and after the game.

Also the players don’t dictate who plays.

They’re not going to be turning in their jerseys to gulutzan a la “Rudy” inssiting that Matt plays.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I agree he's been a lot better. But "never go to the stands" seems like an overstatement. Firstly because it's happened already, so there's not some unwritten rule about Stajan and secondly because the new guys are going to need a shot. Assuming Ferland's out they still have to sit Brouwer, Hathaway, Stajan or Lazar. Let's assume it's Garnet. When Ferland's back, two have to be out, and that's where I think Stajan might get a seat. The thrid reason is just because of wear and tear - he got hit hard last game and gets hit a lot in general.

Right, but I think Stajan will need to revert to his Oct-Dec form to go back to the PB. And I'm getting this weird feeling (reverting excluded) that they would like to get Stajan his 1,000 games and silver stick if they can help it.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Lovely, he can hang out with them in the room as a healthy scratch before and after the game.

Also the players don’t dictate who plays.

The gel man dictates who plays.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Karl

I think Stajan will need to revert to his Oct-Dec form to go back to the PB. And I'm getting a strange feeling (reverting excluded) that they would like to get Stajan his 1,000 games and silver stick if they can help it.

Forgot about that. I'm sure that's a consideration. The thing is - who sits? IMO Lazar has improved just as much.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Lovely, he can hang out with them in the room as a healthy scratch before and after the game.

Also the players don’t dictate who plays.

They’re not going to be turning in their jerseys to gulutzan a la “Rudy” inssiting that Matt plays.

Neither do fans.

[fire_starter]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Overall I'm happy to see the Flames didn't misconstrue their situation. They are a borderline playoff team, so it doesn't make sense to go for a big splash unless you can land a core piece. Hoffman was the only one potentially available who made sense. Very reminiscent of the deadline where our "big moves" were Brett Carson and Freddy Modin.

That said, it's a bit disappointing that this is the situation we find ourselves in after going all-in during the offseason. Hopefully fixing the RW mess is a priority this summer.

Edit: regarding Stajan, he'll get enough games to reach 1000 just as a way of saying thanks, and probably no more than that. Matt Stajan is a nice guy but absolutely not a player who gets guaranteed icetime on a team with playoff aspirations.

How are we a borderline team when the top two spots in our division are still up for grabs?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Neither do fans.

No kidding. I merely posted what lines id like to see...?

[Karl]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Forgot about that. I'm sure that's a consideration. The thing is - who sits? IMO Lazar has improved just as much.

Hathaway. He's been fighting his own talent for a good 2 weeks.

[crdr]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Lovely, he can hang out with them in the room as a healthy scratch before and after the game.

Also the players don’t dictate who plays.

Haha. No evidence of this yet.
Yes they do or he wouldn't be making $3.3M. GMs are not stupid.

[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

https://youtu.be/qRlKrlB0Pq8 I rest my case your honor

Calling on djsFlames am I wrong ?!?! Lol

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by crdr

Haha. No evidence of this yet.
Yes they do or he wouldn't be making $3.3M. GMs are not stupid.

You’re right. General managers don’t make mistakes. Stajan is really earning that contract, proving the gm (Burke at the time) right.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by fire_starter

How are we a borderline team when the top two spots in our division are still up for grabs?

You're seriously asking why a team embroiled in a dogfight for the 2nd wildcard spot might be considered a borderline playoff team?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

You're seriously asking why a team embroiled in a dogfight for the 2nd wildcard spot might be considered a borderline playoff team?

By my count, they're one of seven teams competing for four playoff spots, including two divisional seeds. (Eight and five, if you're not sold on Minnesota.)

That's still borderline territory, but you make it sound as if the 2nd wild card was the only spot they had any chance of taking.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

I’ll never understand the Stajan love affair. He’s our worst player.

Originally Posted by crdr

Fans hate him. The players on the team love him. That's all that matters.

Lots of fans like Stajan just fine, because they recognize what he has brought and what he still contributes.

[crdr]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

You’re right. General managers don’t make mistakes. Stajan is really earning that contract, proving the gm (Burke at the time) right.

Yes, but he resigned. He must be doing something right.
I just don't see Flames Coaching sitting some guy whose played 53 games in the heat of a playoff push.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Karl

Hathaway. He's been fighting his own talent for a good 2 weeks.

Yeah, but I was more talking about after Ferland comes back. They need two sitters.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Lots of fans like Stajan just fine, because they recognize what he has brought and what he still contributes.

I miss David Jones

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by crdr

Yes, but he resigned. He must be doing something right.
I just don't see Flames Coaching sitting some guy whose played 53 games in the heat of a playoff push.

He signed in 2014-2015. His play has regressed. If shore can win faceoffs and not skate around aimlessly with one hand on his stick, and avoid icing it twice a game, the coaching staff will put him in Stajans spot.

Point being, the coaches will do what’s best for the team, not keep Stajan in the lineup because some teammates like him