[Trade] Flames get Travis Hamonic + 4th for a 1st and 2x2nds

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
Rest of Hamonic deal: believe Isles get a 1st RD pick, two 2nd RD picks while Flames also get a 4th RD pick back

solid trade...i'd rather had a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd instead of having the 4th coming back...

that said, this is a really solid move. absolutely solidifies our top 4... if we can resign Stone too, that would be amazing...

if Hamonic was available, makes you wonder why the Oilers didn't do that rather than getting Strome?

I mean I'm glad they didn't! but just another in a long line of odd Oiler moves...

[mdubz]

Lots to give up for a #4.

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You don't like it way too much, so you like it? Excellent, me too.

Haha sorry forgot the comma.

[keenan87]

Sign Stone and get a top 6 forward next..

[Anduril]

https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/sta...35103601082368

@DimFilipovic: After spending all of last year dragging around Dennis Wideman, Michael Stone and Deryk Engelland I imagine TJ Brodie is a fan of this move.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

Ouch. Seems to pricey. That's what we got for a top 2 defenceman a few years back. Hamonic is decent but he's not a first rounder and 2 seconds better than Stone. I guess time will tell but my initial gut reaction is pretty huge over payment.

Look how much Hamilton makes. Hamonic makes 3.8. That's value.

[nwflamesfan]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Don't like it way to much. Cupboards are empty now.

Because they gave up 3 draft picks? not actual developing prospects. WTF

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

Ouch. Seems to pricey. That's what we got for a top 2 defenceman a few years back. Hamonic is decent but he's not a first rounder and 2 seconds better than Stone. I guess time will tell but my initial gut reaction is pretty huge over payment.

Bear in mind Hamonic'a contract is really good as opposed to what Stone might ask for.

[Mass_nerder]

It worries me that we'll have a sizable gap in the prospect pool after no second or third this year, no first or second next year, and probably no second the year after. Hopefully we can get a few assets at the deadline.
You have to pay for good top 4 guys though, so I guess I'm pretty happy we didn't lose any of our top prospects.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MyFlamesFirst

The return is palatable. Definetly not a steal like the Hamilton trade but we didn't get takes to the cleaners so that's nice. I have a feeling we aren't going to be drafting very much in the coming years with treliving in win now mode.

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Which is how it should be.

Then the next step in the contender ride is to hopefully get to Pittsburgh/Chicago level where you start getting draft picks while contending due to having positions solidified and your prospects get overrated and coveted by the league because they're overachieving on a team that's easy to play for.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

Ouch. Seems to pricey. That's what we got for a top 2 defenceman a few years back. Hamonic is decent but he'said not a first rounder and 2 seconds better than Stone. I guess time will tell but my initial gut reaction is pretty huge over payment.

Just because we underpaid for Hamilton because Sweeney got pressured by his bosses doesn't mean this is automatically an overpayment.

I'd say this is closer to market value than the Hamilton deal was. Particularly because Hamonic is on a pretty nice contract for a top 4 defenseman.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Don't like it way to much. Cupboards are empty now.

Maybe on the forward front a little but our D cupboard and goalie cupboard are near the best in the league.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by handgroen

our window is open in the eyes of management

beautiful time to be a flames fan

I will consider open when they address that elusive hole on right wing.

Inching closer and closer though.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Don't like it way to much. Cupboards are empty now.

How are the cupboards empty now? We didn't trade any prospects. lol.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Don't really like giving up the first but this signals that the window is opening...so filling that rw spot remains even more important. How much cap space left?

[Ashasx]

More involved in the deal

Elliotte Friedman‏ @FriedgeHNIC
Told Hamonic deal "is complicated," so forgive me if inexact. But sounds like NYI is getting a first and two seconds. NYI will send a 4th

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Basically the same as Hamilton then, but we get a 4th back and hopefully the 1st and two 2nds are later in their respective rounds.

Never mind the fact that they are at least a year away which lowers their value significantly. I'd call this a homerun trade for us.

[tvp2003]

Wow.

The difference between this and Hamilton deal is that Dougie was due for a big raise. Hamonic is already under contract (at a good cap hit).

Don't see Stone re-signing for #5 money but...

[FlamesNation23]

Ill take it but I hope we can recoup these picks at some point, especially with next years draft being much better than this year

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Bear in mind Hamonic'a contract is really good as opposed to what Stone might ask for.

This is true. That helps.