[Signing] Lucic to Oilers 7yrs ($6mil AAV)

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by 1CupChuck

Tkachuk is a worse skater than Lucic, Bennett can't even do a pull-up so I don't think that is all that likely.

He gone.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Hahah my favourite tweet about Lucic:

Sir Earl ‏@Sir_Earl 3h3 hours ago
Milan Lucic finishes his playoff career with 64 points in 101 games.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Here come the Oil trolls. Welcome back!

Thier winnin' the cup ya know... Until November when they will disappear again.

[nik-]

This is why people who were saying they were starting to feel bad for Oiler fans needed a slap.

[robaur]

Oiler fans are already assuring themselves of the playoffs this upcoming season. lol.

[TheIronMaiden]

I don't know what I like more, the oilers taking. 6 mil cap hit on a 35 year old man in 7 years, Or the Can####holds having to play against Lucic 5 times a year. Hahaha.

[Wheatking]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

the next 3 or 4 years they're going to become a very thin club due to the contracts that they're handing out and the ones they've handed out

Nuge 6
Eberle 6
Draisaitl will probably go to 6 if he's at all successful
Lucic 6
McDavid 10 is likely

34 million there

Sekeras 5.5
Klefbom 4
Larsson 4
Fayne 3.5
Nurse 5

22 million without a true for sure number 1 pairing guy

Talbot 4.1

60 million without a true top pairing guy and lacking a bottom 6. And frankly the cap isn't going to go up enough to help them

I never post here but I'll just point out that if you're going to give McDavid 10M (it will probably be more), Draisaitl: 6 and Nurse: 5 (I don't see that happening), you should at least remove Fayne since his contract will be expired by then.

And I should also mention that you're bashing the Oilers for having too many good players. And I'm sure we'll also bash them for trading that talent to create some depth, right? One of RNH or Draisaitl will likely be moved at some point.

And look at the Flames. What do Monahan and Gaudreau get? The market has changed since Hall and Eberle signed their second contracts. Gaudreau deserves more than 6M and Monahan might as well. If Draisaitl is getting 6M then Bennett probably is too in a couple years. Elliott will be getting raise next summer. The Flames don't even have a #4-6 Dman right now. And Giordano isn't getting any younger. The window to win with him is shrinking.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Wheatking

...And I should also mention that you're bashing the Oilers for having too many good players...

No. we are bashing the Oilers for having tho dramatically overpay to attract free agents, and to keep their existing players. In a world in which Oscar Klefbom earns +$4 m a year, Draisaitl and Nurse are set to cash in for even extremely underwhelming performances.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Wheatking

I never post here but I'll just point out that if you're going to give McDavid 10M (it will probably be more), Draisaitl: 6 and Nurse: 5 (I don't see that happening), you should at least remove Fayne since his contract will be expired by then.

And I should also mention that you're bashing the Oilers for having too many good players. And I'm sure we'll also bash them for trading that talent to create some depth, right? One of RNH or Draisaitl will likely be moved at some point.

And look at the Flames. What do Monahan and Gaudreau get? The market has changed since Hall and Eberle signed their second contracts. Gaudreau deserves more than 6M and Monahan might as well. If Draisaitl is getting 6M then Bennett probably is too in a couple years. Elliott will be getting raise next summer. The Flames don't even have a #4-6 Dman right now. And Giordano isn't getting any younger. The window to win with him is shrinking.

Mmm hmm, you definitely are on top of the fact that both teams have good young players who will get paid, and that could create problems, but the difference between the two teams is in how they are balanced.

Flames have smart money invested in all three positions. The oilers lack elite talent on D, and it has been a glaring problem that leads to a dysfunctional team.

The other big difference is having young cheap talent to fill out the lineup. Do I think the flames are the best in the league at this? By no means. But the oilers are the absolute worst drafting and developing team in the NHL, and you can't pay premium players and just hope the other half of your lineup isn't terrible. They consistently have been and will be.

By buying premium free agent forward with term, Edmonton has in essence forced themselves into exposing their most glaring weaknesses.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by robaur

Oiler fans are already assuring themselves of the playoffs this upcoming season. lol.

Except a collection of skilled individuals doesn't make a good team.

Patching a leaky ship with a new piece of duct tape isn't going to dry up the mess that's already there.

Bringing a new culture and better system/structure and prospect development would improve the team more than a 6 million dollar free agent will. Or a young defenseman that will be played over his head from the outset.

This is what's lost on Oilers fans. Every. Year.

[Drak]

Oiler action starts now. Then ends in October.

[Shazam]

Has he asked for a trade yet?

[Wheatking]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Mmm hmm, you definitely are on top of the fact that both teams have good young players who will get paid, and that could create problems, but the difference between the two teams is in how they are balanced.

Flames have smart money invested in all three positions. The oilers lack elite talent on D, and it has been a glaring problem that leads to a dysfunctional team.

The other big difference is having young cheap talent to fill out the lineup. Do I think the flames are the best in the league at this? By no means. But the oilers are the absolute worst drafting and developing team in the NHL, and you can't pay premium players and just hope the other half of your lineup isn't terrible. They consistently have been and will be.

By buying premium free agent forward with term, Edmonton has in essence forced themselves into exposing their most glaring weaknesses.

So what should the Oilers have done? Not signed Lucic? Kept Hall and not got a Dman of any kind? Continue to be afraid to make a move and waste McDavid's time like they've done with Hall, Eberle and RNH?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Wheatking

So what should the Oilers have done? Not signed Lucic? Kept Hall and not got a Dman of any kind? Continue to be afraid to make a move and waste McDavid's time like they've done with Hall, Eberle and RNH?

No, they're absolutely improving their team and good for them. That contract is still hilarious though

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Wheatking

So what should the Oilers have done? Not signed Lucic? Kept Hall and not got a Dman of any kind? Continue to be afraid to make a move and waste McDavid's time like they've done with Hall, Eberle and RNH?

didn't they host Jason Demers a few days ago? I'd rather have signed him and have Hall/Demers instead of Lucic/Larsson, to be honest.

Actually think the Hall trade was necessary and not as bad as many people thought, but that Lucic deal is just terrible.

[midniteowl]

Is Lucic married? If so, what's the over and under that Mrs. Lucic demand a trade in very near future?

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Wheatking

So what should the Oilers have done? Not signed Lucic? Kept Hall and not got a Dman of any kind? Continue to be afraid to make a move and waste McDavid's time like they've done with Hall, Eberle and RNH?

There is no good move to make, such is the cycle of oilerdom.

[Strange Brew]

I don't really care about the Oilers cap issues but they certainly got better unfortunately. 7 years is a stupid length contract but Lucis is also 34 months younger than Brouwer, so they will be same age when their deals expire.

[Locke]

Lucic was getting tired of playing past April, he gets paid the same but now he gets more Vacation days.

[Wheatking]

Originally Posted by devo22

didn't they host Jason Demers a few days ago? I'd rather have signed him and have Hall/Demers instead of Lucic/Larsson, to be honest.

You can't criticize the Oilers future cap situation and then suggest they sign Demers when he is reportedly asking for 5.5M. I'd say that's the reason no team, including the Oilers, haven't signed him. He's one of those Dmen that is decent at everything and good at nothing. He's not the answer. It would be a signing just for the sake of making a signing. He'd also be a strong candidate to eventually be bought out. You know no one is going to trade for it.

What the Oilers really need is that true offensive Dman that can QB a PP and hold his own defensively. The Tyson Barrie rumours are heating up out of Colorado and that would be a big addition for the Oilers.