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View Poll Results: Who should the Flames hire?
Bruce Boudreau 402 66.89%
Guy Boucher 7 1.16%
Dave Cameron 3 0.50%
Marc Crawford 12 2.00%
Mike Yeo 7 1.16%
Someone else 170 28.29%
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:10 AM   #181
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I'm also worried about switching to a defense first system. Despite all Hartley's flaws, we've had some pretty entertaining hockey the past few seasons.
Unfortunately, we need to have a defensive-minded coach if we're ever going to be competitive. Almost all the teams in the playoffs were in the top half for GA/G this year. New Jersey was the lone anomaly to not make it, and that's because they had a league worst offense. Dallas was 19th in GA/G, but they drastically outscore any defensive problems they have. Point stands, even if you had a ridiculous offense, you cannot be in the bottom 10 defensive teams and expect to make the playoffs.

People are probably sick of me making the comparison, but the Panthers are a good example of how quick you can turn it around with strong defensive coach. Gallant came in 2 seasons ago after the Panthers were 2nd worst in the league and had the 2nd worst GA/G next to only the Oilers (aside: haha stupid Oilers).

They pick up an established #1 goaltender in Luongo. The existing d-core of Campbell, Kulikov, and Gudbranson is supplemented by the pick up of Ekblad, and the veteran Willie Mitchell. Jokinen and Bolland are brought in for their defensive games. Gerard Gallant is brought in and implements a defensive system. All these changes bumps the Panthers to 20th in the league and 18th in GA/G. This is not a coincidence. Despite the Panthers continuing to struggle offensively, corrections to the defense pushed them up the standings.

Ok, so this last season was a bit of a breakout year for Barkov and Trocheck. Other than that, the roster was largely the same as the previous season minus some dead weight. Hayes was traded for Reilly Smith. Petrovic took a spot the d-core. Some young bangers in Shaw, Howden, Brickley, and Wilson all filled out the bottom 2 lines effectively all year. The Panthers continued to work on their defensive game and ended up 7th in the league with the 7th ranked GA/G.

Is anyone starting to see a pattern here?

Ok, so what does this mean for the Flames?

In 2013/14 the Flames were 27th in points, and 23rd in GA/G. They were right in every game until the end if you all can remember, indicating that their place in the standings wasn't indicative of their play.

2014/15: the Flames were 16th in points. They were 14th in GA/G.

2015/16: Flames were 26th in points. They were dead f'ing last in GA/G. Despite having the 11th ranked offense, it didn't raise them in the standings in any significant way.

This isn't rocket science everyone. The defense has to be in the top half of the league if this team is ever to have a chance to compete in the playoffs. In Hartley's time in Calgary, it was never higher than 14th. His teams finished in the bottom 10 for GA/G 3 out of his 4 years here, 2 of those years they were bottom 3.

I will take a coach that gets this team to play defense adequately any day of the week. I'm entertained by winning, and while a high-flying offense is exciting at times, it's difficult to get excited by it when your team is constantly losing.

Fix the defense. Fix the goaltending. Do that and the team will shoot up the standings.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:37 AM   #182
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The timing of this tells me it is already a for gone conclusion that they will hire Bruce.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:50 AM   #183
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Voted someone else as I don't think our man is on that list, although I'm not sure who it will be.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:07 AM   #184
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I could live with Boudreau, but is Scotty Bowman at 83 too old?
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:30 AM   #185
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If what Mckenzie said is true, can see us going to the ahl. Green has been widely mentioned, but these guys might deserve a shot

Todd Nelson
Dean Evason
Sheldon Keefe
Luke Richardson

Saw Bruce Cassidy's name in the tsn article, maybe he gets a shot.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:41 AM   #186
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I wouldn't object to a head coach getting their first crack at the NHL (though I feel this team needs someone established), but with someone like Boudreau available, with his resume, I'd be disappointed if the Flames hired someone from the AHL while Bruce was still on the market.

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:46 AM   #187
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Even more than a guy like Sutter with his two rings, Boudreau appeals to me for his regular season successes. Same with - say - Vigneault. It would be amazing to develop a Flames team that could comfortably make the playoffs year after year.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:48 AM   #188
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I could live with Boudreau, but is Scotty Bowman at 83 too old?
If Scotty Bowman wanted to still be a head coach he would be head coach right now. So I'm pretty sure he's done with coaching.
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Please no..

Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 6 minutes ago
With Bob Hartley gone, expect Randy Carlyle to be one of the candidates for the vacant job in Calgary. #flames #tvasports
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I expect every out of work coach to be a candidate. Doesn't mean they'll get serious consideration.
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Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 6 minutes ago
With Bob Hartley gone, expect Randy Carlyle to be one of the candidates for the vacant job in Calgary. #flames #tvasports
Out of work coach linked with vacant coaching position. Well colour me shocked.

Cheers for the hot take Renaud.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:23 AM   #192
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Warrener figured they go outside of the "recycle bin". If so I imagine it's someone heavy into advanced stats theories.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:25 AM   #193
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According to the twitterverse, Randy Carlyle will be the next coach of the Flames. He is a great coach, and will lead the Flames far into the playoffs.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:32 AM   #194
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According to the twitterverse, Randy Carlyle will be the next coach of the Flames. He is a great coach, and will lead the Flames far into the playoffs.
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Carlyle would be an excellent choice.
u trollin bruh?
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:54 AM   #195
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I'm about to "cool story bro" this thread, but back when Carlyle was with Winnipeg, he used to vacation on Lake of the Woods in the summer. It was the tale around town that he was notorious for refusing to tip at restaurants and for cabs.
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Yeah, I heard he hates puppies too. What a bas****.
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u trollin bruh?
He's a Jets fan and Carlyle was one of the better players to play for the organization. I would say he's being serious. I'm fine with Carlyle coaching the Jets but not the Flames. The Leafs under Carlyle played every bit as bad defensively as the Flames under Hartley.
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Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 6 minutes ago
With Bob Hartley gone, expect Randy Carlyle to be one of the candidates for the vacant job in Calgary. #flames #tvasports
This pretty much means nothing. A coach is a candidate for a coaching position, color me surprised.

On another note, I'd expect Treliving to interview as many coaches available as possible. And based on how much the guy works, it wouldn't surprise me if he did a very thorough search.
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Sorry if this has been posted already, I may have missed it. From a Sportsnet.ca article last night. Sorry for the crude paste

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/h...-line-suitors/

As soon as Calgary announced Hartley was being dismissed, there were rumours that Boudreau was already on his way to Alberta. But no, he was playing golf, although he acknowledged there have been expressions of interest.

“I can say that I’ve had conversations,” he said.
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Likely insinuating he has had conversations with other teams that have shown interest but the way its worded was certainly curious.

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Sorry if this has been posted already, I may have missed it. From a Sportsnet.ca article last night. Sorry for the crude paste

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/h...-line-suitors/

As soon as Calgary announced Hartley was being dismissed, there were rumours that Boudreau was already on his way to Alberta. But no, he was playing golf, although he acknowledged there have been expressions of interest.

“I can say that I’ve had conversations,” he said.
luke fox ‎@lukefoxjukebox Treliving keeps mentioning Flames' poor special teams under Hartley. Boudreau had No. 1 special teams. Hmmm...
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