I agree with the thinking of the most the oilers will get is a 2nd rounder for Yak. My question is if the Flames could get Yak for a second rounder, would you do it?
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The thing is that the Oilers should be well versed at how not to handle this as despite fully knowing both players were not in their future plans they held out on Gagner and Hemsky right until the very end when their value was at it's lowest and they were forced to accept pennies on the dollar when there was a time both could have fetched far more in a trade.
The dilemma is that they can hold on to him and play him top 6 next season in hopes he has a spike in production then trade him for possibly a solid prospect or even late 1st round pick but on the flip side if he continues to underwhelm and toil in the bottom 6 for them in his 5th season the idea of fetching a 2nd round pick for him may sound like the good old days.
I personally think they will cut bait and trade him but do it at the draft at the same time they trade one of RNH, Eberle, or Hall in a big deal for a defenseman so that the underwhelming return will be overshadowed by their big splash for a defenseman.
At this point it feels like the relationship is so fractured that they don't have a next season with Yak. He either won't report, or he'll go to the K instead of playing for the Oilers.
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I agree with the thinking of the most the oilers will get is a 2nd rounder for Yak. My question is if the Flames could get Yak for a second rounder, would you do it?
I would...if they really wanted to they could use a 3rd party team to acquire him assuming the Oilers won't deal with the Flames
I would not spend a pick in the 34-38 range on Yakupov, no.
In as much as we do need options on right wing, Yakupov is a classic leech. He doesn't make the players around him better, and that means you have to tailor your line-up to suit him. And honestly, paying $2.5 million on top of a good pick for a guy who puts up the same offence as Joe Colborne is not a wise allocation of our assets, imnsho.
I would not spend a pick in the 34-38 range on Yakupov, no.
In as much as we do need options on right wing, Yakupov is a classic leech. He doesn't make the players around him better, and that means you have to tailor your line-up to suit him. And honestly, paying $2.5 million on top of a good pick for a guy who puts up the same offence as Joe Colborne is not a wise allocation of our assets, imnsho.
Yeah I think if a team gives up anything of value for him they have to commit fully to playing him with their top center as the guy doesn't have a lot of value playing in the bottom 6 for any team. I don't think that's how the Flames/Hartley operate.
When I watch him play I don't see this skill set that a lot of people have been talking about. He is a play killer, he panics when he has the puck, and is clueless on where to be without it. His only redeeming quality is his one timer and even then, I've seen him muffin that a few times. Stay far away, even for a second rounder.
When I watch him play I don't see this skill set that a lot of people have been talking about. He is a play killer, he panics when he has the puck, and is clueless on where to be without it. His only redeeming quality is his one timer and even then, I've seen him muffin that a few times. Stay far away, even for a second rounder.
He generally has a good release on wristers and snap shots. But then again, he's missing so many tools from his toolbox that you expect from a guy picked that high.
I think what surprised me most about Monahan was his deadly release. I'd say it's better than Yakupov's by a good margin.
The Oilers *need* to cut bait on him. Kevin Lowe would not have recognized that, but Chiarelli will. The two questions are whether Darryl Katz can be convinced of it, and if Chiarelli can get a decent return. Both are very much questionable.
If the Oilers get a 2nd rounder for him, they should do it. If anyone offers more, take it and run before the other team has a chance to think twice.
Totally agree. They arent going to get top dollar for him, hes damaged goods.
He is very expensive for what he brings and hes only going to get more expensive while at the same time there appears to be a bunch of potential but I dont know how much thats worth.
If someone offers them a 2nd for him they should take it and run.
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I agree with the thinking of the most the oilers will get is a 2nd rounder for Yak. My question is if the Flames could get Yak for a second rounder, would you do it?
No, I don't think he is worth that.
Maybe a 3rd, definitely a 4th.
in one way he is like Colborne; highly touted 1st round pick that needs to learn that game at this level. Finished product unlikely to be what he was billed as.
Yak as a 3rd line agitator with offensive upside would be good. But he needs a good coach. He is not smart/fast enough to play on the first two lines on any NHL team.
I would not spend a pick in the 34-38 range on Yakupov, no.
In as much as we do need options on right wing, Yakupov is a classic leech. He doesn't make the players around him better, and that means you have to tailor your line-up to suit him. And honestly, paying $2.5 million on top of a good pick for a guy who puts up the same offence as Joe Colborne is not a wise allocation of our assets, imnsho.
I think we spent more and gave more money to Hamilton based on potential, not based on what he has done. Something that is lost in this conversation is the fact the guy has played for a different coach every year he has been in the league, and one of the worst coaches in the history of the league. It takes time to learn a new system, takes time to understand what he expects from him. If he had some stability then he would most likely be a much better player.
