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Old 09-20-2015, 11:12 PM   #181
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I guess I did.
You completely missed the point. According to you home grown in your mind means white, this is racism. I pointed out that Ahmed could be (or is) as home grown an American as anyone else.

In case you're still not getting it, a Muslim born and raised in America would be a home grown terrorist if they went and lost their mind and pulled a Timothy McVeigh.
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Old 09-21-2015, 05:52 AM   #182
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Bill Maher defends the response taken on the kid

“People at the school thought it might be a bomb,” he said on the show, “because it looks exactly like a #####ing bomb.”

Since Bill Maher is a democrat he should run against Clinton, can you imagine the fights between him and Trump if they both won?

Seriously though, I don't care what color or religion you are, when you bring a briefcase that goes tic-toc to school you should be locked up on stupidity alone.

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Old 09-21-2015, 08:37 AM   #183
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Jorje Ramos is being a complete idiot there. But I also think Maher is out to lunch. No, the fact that people who look like you and practice the same general set of beliefs (interpreted very differently) have "blown a lot of stuff up" over the past X years does not give license to treat you differently. That is a pretty tough position to defend, morally, on racial profiling. Especially when we're just in everyday life here; it's not like this is a heightened security situation (e.g. airport or border).
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:16 AM   #185
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Yes my daughter showed me lots of people tweeting pictures of their projects or their kids projects that they got away with taking to school.
Maybe I missed it, but was this clock actually part of a school sanctioned project? It doesn't say it is in the original link.

It's kind of different if all the kids were making similar items and his was singled out, but my impression is that he made this on his own time which would explain why the teachers were caught off guard.

Honestly, no one here knows what the kids intentions were or if his allegations are true. I suspect that the school and teachers did overreact, but I am not sure if the kid wasn't purposely seeking attention and got more than he bargained for.
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So apparently the clock Ahmed "made" was really just a commercially available clock taken out of it's case. Does that change anyone's view?

To me, the response was still wrong. Sure makes it sound like a troll job though which is also wrong
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So apparently the clock Ahmed "made" was really just a commercially available clock taken out of it's case. Does that change anyone's view?
Should have been pretty apparent from the beginning. He's a 9th grader, taking a part and putting back together electronics is pretty common for 14 year olds who are curious about the technology they use.

Now if he had actually made a digital clock, the bigger question would have been why he was at that school at all when he would have had more experience than second year software and electrical engineering students.
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:57 AM   #188
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Should be pretty obvious when you look at the circuit board - no way he did those solders by hand. And if you're going to make a clock from scratch with a wall plug, in order to put in a pencil case, why does it have a hookup for a 9 volt battery?
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:15 AM   #189
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For sure it should be obvious, but it isn't the way it was reported originally. They keep saying that he "made a clock" which is a huge exaggeration. They should be saying that he re-assembled a digital clock into a small metal case and brought it to school.

Saying he "made a clock" is spinning things a certain way that is more favourable for the kid. It makes him sound more like a misunderstood genius than normal 14 year old that may have been acting out for attention.
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:03 AM   #190
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You completely missed the point. According to you home grown in your mind means white, this is racism. I pointed out that Ahmed could be (or is) as home grown an American as anyone else.

In case you're still not getting it, a Muslim born and raised in America would be a home grown terrorist if they went and lost their mind and pulled a Timothy McVeigh.
Ok. I guess I missed your point. I guess you just called me a racist. I can assure you though I look "white" I am far from that. And YES, I think this kid is not a terrorist. Hope I am allowed to say that.
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I have been having this debate in my head. If his goal was to create a hoax bomb, would he make it look like an actual bomb or intentionally not like an actual bomb? One could argue that by having the clock on there that it doesn't really resemble a bomb, but more of a movie-style bomb.

Kind of a fascinating article. Basic gist is that real bombs do not look like bombs.

http://hackaday.com/2015/09/21/this-...mb-looks-like/
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:28 AM   #192
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You mean that real bomb didn't look like a bomb. Because often real bombs look like bombs.
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You mean that real bomb didn't look like a bomb. Because often real bombs look like bombs.
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:54 PM   #196
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This was always the outcome I anticipated. I'm only surprised it took this long.

People have won lawsuits for far less I guess.
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:55 PM   #197
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Just plain ridiculous.

Nobody has benefitted from this more than he has. Scholarships, educational opportunities... and his family wants $15 million?

I hate to say it, but this kid knew exactly what he was doing from the start.
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It's obvious he will use the 15mil to fund ISIS and then claim to be a Syrian refugee. Once accepted into Canada, he will become a taxi driver that refuses short trips and drives 10 under the speed limit. How did we not see this coming?
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What are you talking about you guys, 15 million dollars seems totally fair! He invented a digital clock!

Or... took one apart?

Whatever, that's an amazing achievement worthy of monetary compensation.
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:04 PM   #200
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I generally read "$15m" as "$15,000", but is that the ask here, or is it millions? Either way, it is ridiculous.
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