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Old 08-25-2015, 11:33 AM   #181
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half the league or more
Name the teams.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:33 AM   #182
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Gio has earned this contract. And it's a fair deal for both sides IMO -- a little lower on salary by Gio, and little more term given by the team. No doubt someone would have given him both if he hit the open market.

If Russell is willing to take 5 money I'm sure Treliving can find a spot for him; unfortunately, he's shown he can be a solid 3/4 on a deep blue line (2/3 with injuries) and will get offered that elsewhere.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:33 AM   #183
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At a six year term? With who?

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Take your pick. There would have been a long line up of teams interested in Gio's services
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:36 AM   #184
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Ortio stepping up this season and stealing the number one job would be huge for this team and our cap hit. We've got 7.9 million tied up in Ramo and Hillier, having a young goalie make one or both of those guys expendable would go a long way to saving some cap space, at least short term.
and Arnold taking over from Monahan on the #1 line.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:36 AM   #185
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At a six year term? With who?
I dunno, besides this off season where it didn't get too crazy July 1st tends to bring out the big deals with GM's not caring about what happens down the line, giving up term in order to get the deal done that day. Christian Ehrhoff got a ten year deal a couple summers ago for crying out loud, 29 year old Sekerha signed a 6 year deal.

Wouldn't be surprised if Giordano got a 6 year deal at 7.5+ July 1st if he stayed UFA, don't know why you would be to be honest.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:37 AM   #186
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and Arnold taking over from Monahan on the #1 line.
What?

Hillier and Ramo aren't exactly non-replaceable players.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:38 AM   #187
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Take your pick. There would have been a long line up of teams interested in Gio's services
I'm sure every team in the league would like to have Giordano, but it would depend on the contract. I think you're exaggerating the number of teams that would be willing to pay him much more than Calgary just did.

Philly, Dallas and Colorado are the only ones that make a lot of sense to me. Maybe Columbus. And that's without knowing any of their cap situations.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:40 AM   #188
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I'm sure every team in the league would like to have Giordano, but it would depend on the contract. I think you're exaggerating the number of teams that would be willing to pay him much more than Calgary just did.

Philly, Dallas and Colorado are the only ones that make a lot of sense to me. Maybe Columbus. And that's without knowing any of their cap situations.

Yeah I see your point, bite even 3-4 times trying to get Gio would result in a pretty huge price bump or longer term in my opinion.

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Old 08-25-2015, 11:43 AM   #189
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I love that just as Edmonton are "bound to improve" with their vaunted offense lead by their new generational talent, Calgary comes back with one of the strongest D cores in the league.
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I'm sure every team in the league would like to have Giordano, but it would depend on the contract. I think you're exaggerating the number of teams that would be willing to pay him much more than Calgary just did.

Philly, Dallas and Colorado are the only ones that make a lot of sense to me. Maybe Columbus. And that's without knowing any of their cap situations.
Edmonton would salivate.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:45 AM   #192
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Mark is lucky Brad feels like paying him at all.
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I hate to say it but this contract will be an anchor the last two years. Paying a 37 year old defenseman almost 7m when we will need that money for the young guys will be a problem. The chances of him being a top pairing guy are low. The only question is can we live with that just to get a lower hit over the next 4 years. Apparently BT can.
The flaw in that argument is that you don't know what the cap will be in the last 2 years. $6.75M may not look so bad in 2020.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:46 AM   #194
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I think lots of teams would want him, maybe not half the league but lots I'm guessing. I think the teams pushing to win now (philly is perfect example) would see him as one of the final pieces while young teams would want someone like him to mentor and anchor the D. Gio is a #1, Norris calibre, amazing captain defenseman, those don't come along that often. If he hit the market, I would understand if teams that aren't close to winning now would still go after him just because a player like that doesn't come along that often.

We'll never know who would be interested in signing him but I'm sure every team would want him.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:47 AM   #195
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Slightly longer term than I would like, but the price is right. Excellent news.
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:49 AM   #196
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If the NHLPA uses their 5% escalator each year for the next 3 years, the Cap will be 82.65M by 18/19, and 86.78M by 19/20.

6.75M for Gio when we're realistically looking at a 85M+ salary cap should quiet down those complaining about paying a 38/39 year 6.75M.

So if the escalator is used for the next 3 years, Gio's cap-hit in relation to the salary cap is

16/17: Gio's contract is 9% of the cap
17/18: Gio's contract is 8.57% of the cap
18/19: Gio's contract is 8.17% of the cap

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Old 08-25-2015, 11:51 AM   #198
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It does not matter if half the teams would offer him a longer term extension at more $... it only takes one team to offer him that as a free agent. And you can be sure that there is one team out there that thinks that Gio is worth this much or significantly more.... just look at how many CP posters are saying this is a terrific deal. So, if we want him we had to pay this much, and I think it is a good deal!!
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:51 AM   #199
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Deal is fine. Gio compares to a guy like Boyle who was elite to about 35, 36, still top pairing, then top 4 for a couple seasons and is now used more as a bottom pairing guy.
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Edmonton would salivate.
I was under the impression that they have 5 Giordanos...
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