[PGT] Flames lose 4-2 in Game 4. Ducks lead series 3-1. Brink of elimination

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Winning three in a row against the top team in the West with two of the games taking place at the Honda Center ≠ in any way shape or form a likely scenario.

Any reasonable realistic person should know this.

Fortunately, the Flames are not reasonable. If they were, they would have caved a long time ago.

[nickerjones]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Agreed. I posted this on HF:

Yep, 2nd year of the rebuild and,
I believe we're the youngest team in the playoffs, we have our best player out of the line-up, we are struggling to get to the cap floor, and we have a lot of picks in the top end of this years draft. All that, and we're in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

What a year.

Exactly what I'm saying. What's hilarious is my Canuck fan friends acquaintences are talking trash that our season is done and how the Flames don't have a chance against the Ducks. My response is easy... "No problem.. If our season is done, this year we made the playoffs, ended the Canucks season, and we get to pick higher than the Canucks in the 1st round. Seems like an Awesome season."

[N-E-B]

If you told me that one team in the playoffs would come back from a 3-1 series deficit, and I had to bet on which one of the 16 teams would do it, I'd bet my a entire paycheck on the Calgary Flames.

Never quit.

Flames in 7.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Wiggum_PI

Worst officiating I've seen all year. Corey Perry had at least 3 interference penalties that weren't called. Pretty tough to win, when the refs hand the game to Anaheim.

100% agree with this. How can a guy who is known for being a dirty player and playing on the line and over the line so often get away with all of that? It's unbelievable... The hit on Brodie in the middle of the ice was ridiculous... How can it be seen as anything but interference? And then that high stick call... That was barely a high stick cause it was mostly his glove... Gets picked up immediately. Unbelievable.

[DropIt]

I'll be proud of this team when the fat lady has sung, until then we are still in a series. What's tougher about tonights loss is that we hung with the Ducks and even had fate in our own hands and gave it away with poor decisions.

I think we can pull one back to the Dome

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by JayP

But the blatantly obvious issue with this to anyone with some semblance of intelligence is the fact that certain penalties (high stick, delay of game, too many men) are deemed black & white by the league and continue to be called as such after they dictate that the refs should put the whistles away. If they want to "let the players play" and let Corey Perry take dangerous runs at our goaltender and charging & interference penalties then why the hell is every high stick a penalty and a marginal too many men a penalty? Why are some penalties acceptable to not be called (and actually celebrated by idiot analysts), but some aren't?

The entire system is flawed. There's not a single other professional sport that operates like this. In the 4th quarter of NFL playoff games, do you see the refs not call pass interference and holding calls, but only call offsides penalties because it's a black/white call? The sheer notion of it is ridiculous. But that's how the NHL operates and it has a major impact of playoff games and series.

Thanks for a great post. "game management" is a joke and hurts the credibility of the league.

The Perry tackling of Brodie was particularly egregious, then the too many men penalty was called as an automatic. Boggles the mind.

[Brick]

After what the refs let the Ducks get away with, giving 4 mins to Colborne was ridiculous. Anaheim could do no wrong...Kesler and Perry got away with blatant non-called infractions on just about every shift they took during that same period...letting things go is only fair if it works both ways.

[Cheerio]

Pretty great dome experience for my first ever flames playoff game. Crowd was loud and into the game with only a few exceptions, couldn't even hear the whistles for most of the game. However to the guy who yelled at me for telling Ducks fans to sit down after they scored and were screaming and waving their towels and then later yelled at a woman and called her a bitch for standing during the last few minutes of a 1 goal game. I really wish the flames would have come back in the last 30 seconds to show you for leaving the dome to beat traffic in possibly the flames last home game of the year. I still believe! Go Flames
go!

[Stay Golden]

If the Flames are down in the 3rd by 3 or something. Perry deserves his playoffs to come to end.
Or the hockey karma should have his foot broken by a blocked shot in the 1st period.
When a player pulls the crap he has Perry should be punished with misfortune not continue to be rewarded.

[GioforPM]

Thoughts: The best game by the Flames overall.

Yes, they scored on the first half of the double minor, but the second minor kept the Flames in the D zone another 2 minutes.

Colborne has been making an attempt to be physical and he just went a tad too far.

Ramo's big rebounds caught up to him on the one goal.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Oh my God dude, read the whole sentence.

I did . Just relax. I'm not happy about that either. Over the years goaltender interference has become more lacks. Once they took out that rule a player who is at a full stop and has established ice rarley gets called for it now. Instead of getting angry I've just learned to accept the rules of the sport.


Edit:
After watching the replay Kessler had no goalie interference. He even looks down to check his fet postion. I hate to say it but Ramo just got beat on the rebound.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Wiggum_PI

Worst officiating I've seen all year. Corey Perry had at least 3 interference penalties that weren't called. Pretty tough to win, when the refs hand the game to Anaheim.

That's just silly, given the 'bogus' 5-3.
That was the golden chance to tie it up... Flames just couldn't do it.

[daveinspruce]

We stopped skating after 10 mins in the first.
If we don't take the body and cause havoc we don't stand a chance against a more talented team. The reason we beat Van we took the body. The reason we won game three.. Yup took the body and out skated them.

[soreshins]

Hurts to lose but great experience. I was at the dome tonight and the fans are 100% behind this group. Bob and Brad are building a great team and I'm already looking forward to next season.

Maybe we win the next game? Who knows but it's been one hell of a ride when most of expected to be scraping the bottom of the barrel this year

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

That's just silly, given the 'bogus' 5-3.
That was the golden chance to tie it up... Flames just couldn't do it.

So your argument to someone calling the refs poor is by calling a 5 on 3 bogus? Looks like you both think the reffing was pretty poor.

Flames never got a powerplay until they were behind. That seems to happen far too often in the NHL.

[#22]

Agree with some previous posts about the NHL's absolute lack of proper officiating

Just stop managing the game and just call it. Even giving that Calgary that 5 on 3 was pathetic and completely predictable. Not that those weren't penalties, because they 100% were, but "Oh, now you're going to call stuff? What about all the other crap in the first two periods?"

This league has been a joke for far too long as far as the refereeing. Double standards for for regular season and playoffs, certain teams / players getting the benefit of the doubt, other players getting calls by reputation. It's disgraceful and has been ever since I can remember.

Many times I've said I was done with this league because of the "officiating".....But the Flames keep pulling me back in

And the sad thing is, everybody knows it yet nothing gets done about it.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

So your argument to someone calling the refs poor is by calling a 5 on 3 bogus? Looks like you both think the reffing was pretty poor.

Flames never got a powerplay until they were behind. That seems to happen far too often in the NHL.

Oh yes. It was bad. Stripes knew they blew the call, giving Colborne 4. Ramo was mowed over a ridiculous amount of times. Officiating was brutal.
That said, they gave the Flames the opportunity they needed

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Oh yes. It was bad. Stripes knew they blew the call, giving Colborne 4. Ramo was mowed over a ridiculous amount of times. Officiating was brutal.
That said, they gave the Flames the opportunity they needed

I agree that the Flames didn't lose due to bad officiating, but I think poor officiating affected the outcome of the game. We'll never know to what capacity.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

That said, they gave the Flames the opportunity they needed

After the Flames were losing. If I had a choice I'd rather be up a goal and let the other team play catch-up on PPs versus the alternative.

I'd rather them just call it the way it should be the entire game. Make up calls annoy me. Not saying you condone it, your post just seems like a small sample size of what I'm reading.

Just call it the way it should be called the entire game. The 5-on-3 and 5-on-4 were pretty bad, but they really should have had multiple PPs before those anyway.

[Gaskal]

It is darkest just before dawn.

And I promise you, the dawn is coming.