02-28-2014, 06:17 PM
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#181
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Originally Posted by Jacks
I guess so, I don't think Ott is that great but maybe others do. To me Miller and Halak are of similar value, Miller a bit more. I guess we'll see in the playoffs.
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MIller and Halak are at totally different levels, IMO.
And Ott is a huge piece for the playoffs - including leadership
This trade makes St Louis a force
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02-28-2014, 06:18 PM
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#182
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This trade does not improve Bufflalo's chances of getting McDavid AT ALL
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02-28-2014, 06:19 PM
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#183
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
even with worst record they still only have a 25% chance
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Depends on how many lottery picks they end up with after all the deals are done.
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02-28-2014, 06:21 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Jacks
Depends on how many lottery picks they end up with after all the deals are done.
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Well they won't get another lottery pick from this deal. St Louis has the same chance of missing the playoffs as Chicago does - probably less as they are deeper
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02-28-2014, 06:23 PM
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#185
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
This trade does not improve Bufflalo's chances of getting McDavid AT ALL
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Buffalo is easily the early favourite for last overall next season. They have no goaltending, traded both their captains this year and are likely to trade several of Halak, Stewart and Moulson all before the deadline. Their projected team looks absolutely abysmal for next year. They don't need to improve their chances as they are already the odds on favourite.
What would really help their chances is if the Isles suck again next year too. They'll have two chances at winning the lottery.
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02-28-2014, 06:23 PM
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#186
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
My god, if rookie GM Tim Murray can pull of this trade (basically a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, Halak and Stewart) for two assets I cannot even begin to imagine what Brian Burke can pull off for his assets. This is going to be the greatest trade deadline in Flames history, I am sure that Burkie will really jump start the rebuilding process. You have to think with all his options for a hockey trade (Cammy, Glencross, Hudler, Stajan, Stempniak, Wideman, Giordano, Smid, Jones, Butler, Russell) Burke has to be able to wheel and deal his way to a number of great trades.
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It's gonna be a sad deadline day for you, my friend 
If we can snag a 1st for Cammy and a 2nd last minute for Stempniak I'll be very happy.
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02-28-2014, 06:25 PM
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#187
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
It's gonna be a sad deadline day for you, my friend
If we can snag a 1st for Cammy and a 2nd last minute for Stempniak I'll be very happy. |
Don't feed the trolls pls
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02-28-2014, 06:25 PM
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#188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
I guess so, I don't think Ott is that great but maybe others do. To me Miller and Halak are of similar value, Miller a bit more. I guess we'll see in the playoffs.
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Your view of their values is extremely skewed if you ask me.
Miller is in the same league as Quick and Lundqvist, Halak is nothing close to that. Ott on the other hand is a 2nd liner with the intangibles to make him as valuable as a lower end first liner to many teams.
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02-28-2014, 06:26 PM
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#189
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
MIller and Halak are at totally different levels, IMO.
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I'll admit that Miller is the better of the two but different levels may be a bit much. They have similar stats, Halak is 5 years younger, Halak has looked pretty good in the playoffs.
They are both expiring contracts so it all comes down to the playoffs this year. Hard to say how Miller will preform, he hasn't been in the playoffs for awhile.
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02-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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#190
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Hope the Sabre fans enjoy the next 7+ seasons without the playoffs.
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02-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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#191
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Originally Posted by Jacks
I'll admit that Miller is the better of the two but different levels may be a bit much. They have similar stats, Halak is 5 years younger, Halak has looked pretty good in the playoffs.
They are both expiring contracts so it all comes down to the playoffs this year. Hard to say how Miller will preform, he hasn't been in the playoffs for awhile.
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The fact they have similar stats when Miller played for the god awful Sabres and Halak played for the powerhouse Blues is proof that they are not on the same level.
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02-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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#192
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
I'll admit that Miller is the better of the two but different levels may be a bit much. They have similar stats, Halak is 5 years younger, Halak has looked pretty good in the playoffs.
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So if they have similar stats but one goalie plays on one of the best teams in the league and the other plays on the worst team in the league doesn't that mean they are at different levels?
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02-28-2014, 06:31 PM
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#193
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I said that Miller is better, not worth arguing about.
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02-28-2014, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Hope the Sabre fans enjoy the next 7+ seasons without the playoffs.
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The way their rebuild is going I'll be surprised if they get to 4 years without playoffs. Perfect rebuild thus far
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02-28-2014, 06:35 PM
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#195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
This trade does not improve Bufflalo's chances of getting McDavid AT ALL
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Well it can IF the Blues finish outside the playoffs. That's not likely going to happen, but if they do finish just outside they still can win the lottery and pick first overall.
Last edited by trackercowe; 02-28-2014 at 06:37 PM.
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02-28-2014, 06:37 PM
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#196
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Originally Posted by $ven27
The way their rebuild is going I'll be surprised if they get to 4 years without playoffs. Perfect rebuild thus far
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All they have done is pick up picks for the most part. Until those picks pan out nothing is close to perfect.
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02-28-2014, 06:44 PM
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#197
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Halifax
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
All they have done is pick up picks for the most part. Until those picks pan out nothing is close to perfect.
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True, but they've set themselves up very nicely with shrewd trades, and will probably be dealing Moulson, Stewart and Halak for even more.
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02-28-2014, 06:45 PM
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#198
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Powerplay Quarterback
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now thats a hockey deal!!
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02-28-2014, 06:52 PM
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#199
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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So watching the Buffalo game and Murray says theres a conditional pick can turn into a 2014 get if the Blues sign Miller to an extension.
Just was not sure this was covered already.
Last edited by dammage79; 02-28-2014 at 06:55 PM.
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02-28-2014, 06:52 PM
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#200
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Murray just said in interview, "Guaranteed 2015 1st and conditional 2014 1st if they resign him"
Buffalo is going to have so many 1sts they won't know what to do with them all.
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