New Superman/Batman film

[photon]

They should use one of these stories.

http://io9.com/the-15-worst-batman-s...old-1202007441

(NSFW language on the page)

[djsFlames]

I get that there are a lot of fans, especially after the legendary series that was the Dark Knight, but calling Batman an important generational cultural icon, myth, whatever. Dear lord, that's kind of silly. I think some people are taking their comic book heroes a little too seriously.. no offense to anyone in here who's as passionate as these folks appear to be. These petitioners should keep it within the context of the movies.. that's kind of blowing it out of proportion. Affleck may not be my first choice, but there certainly are a LOT of worse choices.

Affleck has proven to have the talent. His earlier roles weren't great by any means, but over the past decade he's really improved his stock and shown to be able to execute some roles very well and make a pretty fine director. Argo was fantastic, though it wasn't his acting that stole the show. More the whole atmosphere of it.

[KTrain]

In 24 years we've been given 7 Batman movies. 2 were terrible.

We'll get 2 or 3 Affleck Batman movies and then someone else will don the cowl.

People are treating this casting like the producers have banged their mothers and then took away their Christmas presents.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by KTrain

In 24 years we've been given 7 Batman movies. 2 were terrible.

We'll get 2 or 3 Affleck Batman movies and then someone else will don the cowl.

People are treating this casting like the producers have banged their mothers and then took away their Christmas presents.

Which two? I always liked Batman Forever; it's not great, but definitely doesn't deserve to be called terrible. Just because Joel Shumacher directed it does not make it that bad.

Just look at his credentials, he's actually a pretty good director. Sure he's done a bunch of bad movies, but he's also done some good ones (Falling Down, The Client, A Time to Kill, Phonebooth, and Batman Forever).

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001708/?ref_=sr_1

[Regulator75]

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Which two?

Forever was just too campy and over-the-top for my taste. Jim Carey was good as the Riddler but the script was brutal. Tommy Lee Jones couldn't save Two Face. He looked and acted terrible.

Batman and Robin is up there with the worst movies of all time.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I get that there are a lot of fans, especially after the legendary series that was the Dark Knight, but calling Batman an important generational cultural icon, myth, whatever. Dear lord, that's kind of silly. I think some people are taking their comic book heroes a little too seriously.. no offense to anyone in here who's as passionate as these folks appear to be. These petitioners should keep it within the context of the movies.. that's kind of blowing it out of proportion. Affleck may not be my first choice, but there certainly are a LOT of worse choices.

Affleck has proven to have the talent. His earlier roles weren't great by any means, but over the past decade he's really improved his stock and shown to be able to execute some roles very well and make a pretty fine director. Argo was fantastic, though it wasn't his acting that stole the show. More the whole atmosphere of it.

I think comics can most certainly be compared with myths and legends, and they are definitely engrained in our culture (everyone knows who batman and Superman are, even if you think they're ######ed). If 1000 years from now archaeolgists dug up our civilizations literature, films, clothing etc... They would think we worshiped these people, enough to write stories about them. No different than Hercules, Achilles, Zeus, Jesus (ducks). Comic book heroes very well could become our legends of tomorrow. Can you imagine an entire religion revolving around superman? There basically already is one.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Which two?

Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight Rises. Just awful films.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight Rises. Just awful films.

Incorrect sir. If you were to say Batman (1967) I might agree with you. Dark Knight Rises was an excellent movie. If anything the movie was overly ambitious which led to a few noticeable flaws over the course of the movie.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Batman and Robin and The Dark Knight Rises. Just awful films.

Batman and Robin yes, but The Dark Knight Rises is in no way an awful film. Disappointing? yes, but no way is it awful.

[GirlySports]

I think there have been more Batmans than James Bonds

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Batman and Robin yes, but The Dark Knight Rises is in no way an awful film. Disappointing? yes, but no way is it awful.

I thought it was. Had little entertainment value, was overly long, riddled with plot holes, lousy action sequences, the build up to Batman/Bane rematch was a complete let-down, etc. I think Nolan let all the hype from his fan boys go to his head on this one, because it sucked.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I thought it was. Had little entertainment value, was overly long, riddled with plot holes, lousy action sequences, the build up to Batman/Bane rematch was a complete let-down, etc. I think Nolan let all the hype from his fan boys go to his head on this one, because it sucked.

Agreed. What I don't understand is that they change Bane away from the superdrug behemoth to a more "normal" human being to be more realistic I guess, but then completely forget reality for the rest of the movie

[JeanLucPicard]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I thought it was. Had little entertainment value, was overly long, riddled with plot holes, lousy action sequences, the build up to Batman/Bane rematch was a complete let-down, etc. I think Nolan let all the hype from his fan boys go to his head on this one, because it sucked.

Dont forget the loud music with bad bass played during 99% of the movie. Dark Knight had music in moderation.

[Coach]

For those who aren't a fan of the dark knight rises but like the other two, I suggest you watch them all in a row. Makes the story mesh much better IMO.

[CaptainCrunch]

I think that Dark Knight rises was doomed to be a lesser movie then Dark Knight. Joker is an iconic character and Heath Ledger's portrayal of it carried that movie to the point that you can ignore that the Harvey Dent story line was really weak, and that the Rachel Dawes story line was a bit annoying.

The minute that Heath Ledger walked into the mob meeting and simply said when asked why he didn't kill the batman already "When you're good at something, never do it for free". You knew that it was going to be amazing.

Tom Hardy is a very strong actor, but the Bane character didn't seem to fit him all that well. The League of Shadows story line was a little soft and the twist where it was Tailia that climbed out of the prison wasn't a big surprise.

It just didn't have the epic villain, it was too good guy strong and even when Bruce Wayne had his back destroyed you never felt the jeopardy.

I thought the acting was strong in all three movies. But if I was going to look at it in order of favorites

Dark Knight - Heath Ledger carried this movie "Good evening ladies and gentlemen, we are tonight's entertainment" summed up the theme of the Icharacter perfectly. I thought the two face story line was weak and the ending of the character wasn't all that satisfying. I really wanted to see more of a personality split in the character as opposed to outright angry guy all the time. I thought the casting of miss massive head as Rachel Dawes was a poor choice and I cheered when she was exploded in mid sentence. This was more of a detective comic then a batman comic, and I was fine with that. Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman were incredibly strong in this movie. 9/10

Batman begins - I've always like Liam Neeson as an actor and he was the perfect choice for his role. The origins story was very well done, but as soon as they ground up the orchid for the trial I knew that was going to come later. Christian Bale really nailed the character in this movie, I think this was his strongest portrayal. I thought Katie Holmes did a credible job as Rachel Dawes, but Freeman and Oldman carried this movie acting wise. The final fight was actually pretty satisfying. I loved the intro of the Joker in the end "He has a flair for dramatics like you" 8/10

Dark Knight rising - "I don't know, I had such huge expectations of this movie, and I loved the fact that they put the occupy movement in a silly light. I wanted to like Bane but he was really generic, he was a tough guy with quips nothing more developed then that. I thought the reactor story was hideously stupid, and the Batwing was just showing off. Oldman and Freeman and especially Michael Caine were good. I liked Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, I still think they need her to do a Catwoman origins film to wash the stank of that other Catwoman movie off. JGL did a good job. But it just seemed that everyone knew Batman's secret identity in this movie. I didn't like Bane's death at all, it seemed like it was done for a laugh. It just seemed that you could see the betrayal of Batman by Marion from a 100 miles away in a dark knight with no lights on. 6/10

[GreenLantern]

Pretty much agree with CC, as usual. Heath set the tone for the villain that could never be matched, and Hardy, while a great actor, did not have the depth required to pull off a big villain.

I also thought the whole taking the city hostage, leaving all the cops alive story line was pretty damn weak. Overall still a good movie, but Dark Knight was by far the best of the three.

I didn't mind seen Anne Hathaway in this position:

Spoiler!

But every time she opened her mouth to talk I wanted to punch a kitten in the face as the smugness poured out.

[Yeah_Baby]

If you're going to dissect a movie, it's probably best to get the title correct. For those of you playing at home, it's The Dark Knight Rises.

[GreenLantern]

^^? Who are you referring too?

You realize there are two movies, The Dark Knight AND The Dark Knight Rises, right?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Dark Knight rising - "I don't know, I had such huge expectations of this movie, and I loved the fact that they put the occupy movement in a silly light. I wanted to like Bane but he was really generic, he was a tough guy with quips nothing more developed then that. I thought the reactor story was hideously stupid, and the Batwing was just showing off. Oldman and Freeman and especially Michael Caine were good. I liked Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, I still think they need her to do a Catwoman origins film to wash the stank of that other Catwoman movie off. JGL did a good job. But it just seemed that everyone knew Batman's secret identity in this movie. I didn't like Bane's death at all, it seemed like it was done for a laugh. It just seemed that you could see the betrayal of Batman by Marion from a 100 miles away in a dark knight with no lights on. 6/10

Maybe this is what he was talking about?