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Old 06-22-2012, 08:39 PM   #181
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How about the numerous well rounded major junior or european league players that were still available. Finn, teravainen, ceci, maatta...to name a few crash and bang wingers to a T.

If this is your only rational defense of this pick i think you need to reconsider the Flames current situation. We're apparently not rebuilding but we're going for a massive project pick?

Dismiss "the board" all you want, I guess everyone in hockey that refers to "the board" is wrong and Mr mastodon is right.
We are not doing a full rebuild, so we are unable to still draft intelligently and still consider the teams future?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:39 PM   #182
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The pre-draft ranking is just something for us fans to read about. It truly means nothing next to the actual draft order, which also doesn't mean too much next to career accomplishments. To be upset at who your team picked or didn't pick on the day of the draft is pretty silly. If he hasn't played a game 10 years from now then by all means, be upset, but then why are you lamenting on something from 10 years ago? The same reason why you're complaining about today's pick. You're petty.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:39 PM   #183
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Isn't the draft about getting the best player not the best player in the next 2-3 years?
He used the term best player from this draft in 10 years time.. pretty high praise, they see something they absolutely love. If they have that much conviction.. I think we may have got a gem. I'm gonna play the positive card and hope they're right.

The new way of looking at prospects is something they've put a whole lotta effort into.. I'm optimistic!
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:40 PM   #184
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Jankowski is a player like Gaudreau was. Short, but very skilled and might have been a 6th or 7th round pick. Then he grew to 6'3". He's very skilled, speedy, and is now tall. He'll be our 1st line center within 2 years.
If anyone else had said this......
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:42 PM   #185
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So Jankowski ends up being the steal of the draft, three years later. Is a legitimate superstar and has a long extremely successful career. Isnt that what the draft is all about? I honestly believe Jankowski's value will start to show next draft. He was born two days before the cut off. I look at it as the Flames may have just made the first overall pick of the 2013 draft today. I have never heard of him but I will most certainly not bash the Flames for making the choice. Its far too early.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:42 PM   #186
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Jankowski tells NHL radio that his high school graduation is tomorrow.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:42 PM   #187
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people complain because the pick was so much of a reach, and there was potentially a #1 center sitting at 14 in Tuevo.

you post scouting reports as a justification of Jankowski selection, but ignore the fact that Tuevo was projected as the 7th pick and projected as a #1 center?

that doesn't make a lot of sense either.

The people that are claiming it as a huge reach react that way because Bobby Mac says so or because they haven't heard of him. People who have been following prospects closely for the last six months are claiming he has the potential to be a number 1 center. Teuvo is more likely to play RW rather than center btw.

The point is that any over reaction - positive or negative is unfounded. Like every pick tonight time will ultimately tell if it was a good one. I feel a lot better about this pick than the Chucko or Pelech pick however.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:43 PM   #188
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Who's to say there was anything that would have helped us now? You?

The only thing dark around here is every time you post. Just nothing but incessant complaining and in this case, it's about something you clearly know nothing about.

As it's obvious the team has disappointed you up to and including now, why not take a hike and find something more constructive to do with your time? Because reading your constant ill informed complaining couldn't be more tiresome.
Im sorry, but what do you know that clearly puts your opinion ahead of mine?

You can argue that my opinion can be false, but stating yours is the correct opinion is just asinine.

And im here because i truly love the Flames, i dont like what they are doing, but i am a passionate fan and CP is the best place to talk about where the team is heading and what they are doing.

I Dont believe Jankowski is going to be the #1 Center that some people are going to peg him as. I dont believe he is going to be an impact player. At this point i would have been 100X happier had they drafted TT which is who i wanted months ago.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:43 PM   #189
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Not players in canadian high school leagues. Continue to spin though.
Button (and probably Button's underlings), Weisbrod and Feaster all saw something so special in this kid he was basically #1 on their list going into this draft. Given how well the last couple of drafts (especially the last one) appear to have gone I am going to take that as a freakin great sign! This isn't some kid they settled on after taking the 21st pick, they wanted him before the draft started and I think that says alot.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:43 PM   #190
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Honestly, its not surprising, Jankowski might be a good prospect, but he is likely 2-3 years away from being a full time NHL player.

This doesnt really help the Flames now, and what happens in 2-3 years? Who comes in over the next 2-3 years while all of these guys are developing?

Im afraid Its going to be a dark time for Flames fans.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:44 PM   #191
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Man I really wish he would go to the CHL. I'd love to be able to watch him a bit like we were able with Sven. I love that hype.
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I Dont believe Jankowski is going to be the #1 Center that some people are going to peg him as. I dont believe he is going to be an impact player. At this point i would have been 100X happier had they drafted TT which is who i wanted months ago.
Have you seen either of these players play, for one minute?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:44 PM   #193
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Remember last year when everyone cried about us drafting midgets (especially with our 1st round pick)?

This is definitely an interesting pick. Let's let time judge him.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:44 PM   #194
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The people upset at the pick, how many of you scouted him?

The trams feels strongly about him. We have needed a #1 centre this could be it. Looks good too me.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:44 PM   #195
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From a purely fan perspective it's hard to like the pick, it's a player no one has heard of. But we aren't scouts or management.

From a Flames fan perspective, I'd be disappointed that they passed on (seemingly) better picks at the #14 spot. Though we won't know for sure for a number of years, it's only natural for a large number of the fanbase to be disappointed at this time.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:45 PM   #196
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Finally. A risky pick by Calgary. For a big talented #1 Center who went late because other teams didn't do their homework outside the CHL.

I've been waiting 30 years for us to draft another Nieuwendyk.

It's about F-ing time.
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How many times in the first round has an NHL GM stood up athe podium and said "From xyz High School, .... are proud to select..."???!!!
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:45 PM   #198
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I can't say I am surprised at the names of the people crying the loudest about this pick. And something tells me that they are crying so much because they never heard of the kid, therefore he must be a terrible pick. Personally, I think anyone rushing to judge this pick today is a fool.
And yet you isolate only the people who dislike the pick and don't take pot shots at the people that like it. You don't play the voice of reason very well (or your buddy MastadonFarm too for that matter).
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:46 PM   #199
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Im sorry, but what do you know that clearly puts your opinion ahead of mine?

You can argue that my opinion can be false, but stating yours is the correct opinion is just asinine.

And im here because i truly love the Flames, i dont like what they are doing, but i am a passionate fan and CP is the best place to talk about where the team is heading and what they are doing.

I Dont believe Jankowski is going to be the #1 Center that some people are going to peg him as. I dont believe he is going to be an impact player. At this point i would have been 100X happier had they drafted TT which is who i wanted months ago.
This.

You've probably known this players name for 30 minutes and you come out and say this. You have no clue about him and if asked before the Flames pick you would've just shrugged your shoulders.
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We are not doing a full rebuild, so we are unable to still draft intelligently and still consider the teams future?
The beauty of the gaudreau pick (which is similar to this one) was that it was done at the right time. If this guy was on the radar the team should have done more to get an early or mid second round pick well before or during the draft imho.
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