A Song of Ice and Fire **Spoilers** Now more TV talk!

[Tinordi]

Definitely like the changes in qarth, that story was an absolute Mrs in the books.

Jamies story is also much tighter and better with Karstarks injustice fresh for the viewer.

Don't like where things seem to be going with Jon. It appears that the story with Qorin may not play out which would be a huge shame.

[Tinordi]

Also Roose Bolton casting is weak. Nothing like the character in the book which is very well done.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Definitely like the changes in qarth, that story was an absolute Mrs in the books.

Jamies story is also much tighter and better with Karstarks injustice fresh for the viewer.

Don't like where things seem to be going with Jon. It appears that the story with Qorin may not play out which would be a huge shame.

They really set that up well last night, his whole life is based on his fighting ability, he would feel useless if he couldn't do it etc.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Also Roose Bolton casting is weak. Nothing like the character in the book which is very well done.

I'm assuming it won't matter much as this is as big as his role will get?

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I'm assuming it won't matter much as this is as big as his role will get?

No...no...he becomes rather important in the books...

[Bobblehead]

Beyond the show being really good I'm enjoying watching the non-book readers in the other thread give their opinions on the characters and their guesses of what happens.

The hate for Theon and Joffrey is great. The sympathy for Jaime is a bit earlier than the books.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Beyond the show being really good I'm enjoying watching the non-book readers in the other thread give their opinions on the characters and their guesses of what happens.

The hate for Theon and Joffrey is great. The sympathy for Jaime is a bit earlier than the books.

It's too bad the show likely won't go into quite as much detail about the Hound. It looks like they've decided to cover it a bit, but I loved the moments in the book with him and Sansa. I imagine he'd be a polarizing character and I'd love to see reactions of the TV show only people on whether he deserves to die or not.

I wonder if he'll replace Ser Dontos as her helper. Although that could throw a wrench in his storyline with Arya.

The Hound is IMO by far the most sympathetic grey area character. I felt so bad for him that Sansa was terrified of him and then that Arya hated his guts. He is such a torn character with so many issues. He's truly a broken man who hates the monster that he is.

I'm surprised someone noticed already what a great odd couple Brienne and Jaime make.

[Bigtime]

I'm like the two of you as well, it is fun to see which people are hitting pretty close to the mark with their future predicitions. And just to see their opinions of characters (and how they change over time).

[GP_Matt]

My wife watched Theon string up the bodies and immediately said "It isn't them, he wouldn't have burned them if it was them"
That seems to be the general consensus that they didn't really leave it as much of a cliffhanger.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

My wife watched Theon string up the bodies and immediately said "It isn't them, he wouldn't have burned them if it was them"
That seems to be the general consensus that they didn't really leave it as much of a cliffhanger.

Yeah, Mrs. Impaler said the same thing. Unless the writers actually threw us readers a curve and decided to get rid of the whole boring Bran storyline.

[Arbitor]

I'm very disappointed with the way that cliffhanger worked out. Could have been handled much better. When that happened in the books I was more angry about it then I was about Ned's death. I cheered when Theon revealed what he actually did about the boys.

[VladtheImpaler]

Refresh my memory, whom did Arya use her 3 death wishes on in the book?

[GP_Matt]

The tickler was first and the guards were last. I can't remember the second.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

The tickler was first and the guards were last. I can't remember the second.

She killed the guard herself when they were escaping.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

She killed the guard herself when they were escaping.

No, I think he meant there were a group of prisoners from the north brought in and Arya had him kill all of those guards to allow the northmen to escape.

[GreenLantern]

So Catelyn sends Jamie away with Brienne to trade for Sansa instead of seeing him ripped to shreds by Robs men right?

I can't remember that part... then along the way he escapes from Brienne and is caught by Vargo who takes his hand?

[Coys1882]

Arya's targets if I remember right were: The Tickler, the fat cook that was mean to Hot Pie and then she picks Jaquar himself because he won't help her free the Northerners. That's when he helps free them and gives her the coin and the saying Valar Margolius (sp.)

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

So Catelyn sends Jamie away with Brienne to trade for Sansa instead of seeing him ripped to shreds by Robs men right?

I can't remember that part... then along the way he escapes from Brienne and is caught by Vargo who takes his hand?

Pretty much. They are eventually taken to Harrenhal where Bolton releases Jaime and gives Brienne to Vargo and the Bloody Mummers.

Jaime comes back to save her and they both escape.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I normally avoid cross posting between threads but this can go here too if we want to talk about it in terms of the books:

I had the most bizarre moment with a friend. I was talking about GoT and he asked me which side I'm on.

I didn't even know what he meant at first. That topic hasn't really come up, either with the books or the TV show.

He ended up clarifying, wanting to know which house I took my allegiance with. After talking for a while it turns out he tried the books but couldn't get through them and is sticking with the TV show for now.

The cool part is that he'd definitely chosen a house to support. I thought that was really interesting.

Is this common? Does anyone here find themselves pulling for a certain house? I guess the Starks are the most obvious answer. Any Tyrell, Baelish (that'd be Littlefinger), Stannis, Dany or Lannister supporters in the game of thrones?

I honestly never would have thought of it in terms of "this is the family I'm routing for". I'm just along for the ride. There are some characters I like better than others, but I never thought of pulling for one house over another.



I used to be totally pro-Stark but now that they're all pretty much dead, I find myself hoping Dany comes over and cleans house. For the first few books I definitely wasn't a big Targaryan supporter. In fact, like I said, I never thought about houses, only characters I supported. Tyrion comes to mind because I hate the rest of the Lannisters.

I also find myself kinda pulling for Littlefinger. I'm just over half way through book 4 on the second read through and I find myself hoping that he ends up out backstabbing them all and being left in control of Westeros. Only to have Dany wreak havoc with her dragons and kill the Others and then marry Jon.

[bomber317]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Refresh my memory, whom did Arya use her 3 death wishes on in the book?

Chiswyck
Weese
Jaqen

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Arya_Stark