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Old 06-03-2011, 08:08 PM   #181
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I think the free stuff off PS Plus expires after the free trial ends unless you renew.
You my friend are correct! Regardless, pretty decent selection from Sony...Dont forget about the PSP games...
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:14 PM   #182
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just play activate the ps plus when you think you'll have a month with a bit more free time than usual and play the free stuff before it expires
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:15 PM   #183
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I'll have to check but I heard the games are yours to keep. PSN plus expires, but the free games offer up are not part of psn plus.

Edit: sorry I misread. I thought you guys were talking about the "pick 2 of 5" games. Those ones you keep. The psn plus stuff not so much.

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Old 06-04-2011, 07:34 AM   #184
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You know what... I'm now fully giving up on Sony, they were hacked again (sonypictures.com) http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...rds-posted.ars

Customer data, stored in PLAINTEXT on a SQL server and served via a website that doesn't even implement basic security practices.

This isn't a company that deserves anymore of my money at all and certainly NONE of my data.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:50 AM   #185
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And you can confirm other companies protect their data better?
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #186
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Maybe it's because I'm naiive, but I just don't care about it that much. Herd mentality perhaps
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:46 PM   #187
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And you can confirm other companies protect their data better?
I can confirm that only one company that has my data has been hacked. Twice this year. And this second time it was hacked in the most rudimentary and juvenile way possible for an online system. That's an egregious abuse of trust. And on top of that, Sony's response is to buy my loyalty back for about 80$ worth of free crap I don't need.

Why should I bother with Sony again?
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:01 PM   #188
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At least we get some free games.
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #189
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You know how when you buy PSN games you can make an account on a freind's ps3 and share the game up to 5 times? Are we able to share the two free games 5 times? That way a friend and I could download 2 different free games and then share, totaling 4 free games from the welcome back program. If a third friend is involved than we can grab all 5!

Is this possible?

If so I would need to head down to memory express for a hd upgrade!
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:50 PM   #190
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My second choice is between Dead Nation and Super Stardust, what would you guys chose? I've watched reviews for both and can't decide
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:56 PM   #191
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My second choice is between Dead Nation and Super Stardust, what would you guys chose? I've watched reviews for both and can't decide
I dl'd Dead Nation...tried it...not a fan
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Old 06-05-2011, 04:26 AM   #192
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And you can confirm other companies protect their data better?
What kind of response is that? I like to think that, if I give my personal information (including my credit card) to a company, that they would do whatever they can to keep it safe.

And this time around, it sounds like they didn't even bother to try to keep it safe.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:31 AM   #193
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I can confirm that only one company that has my data has been hacked. Twice this year. And this second time it was hacked in the most rudimentary and juvenile way possible for an online system. That's an egregious abuse of trust. And on top of that, Sony's response is to buy my loyalty back for about 80$ worth of free crap I don't need.

Why should I bother with Sony again?
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What kind of response is that? I like to think that, if I give my personal information (including my credit card) to a company, that they would do whatever they can to keep it safe.

And this time around, it sounds like they didn't even bother to try to keep it safe.
And you guys are sure that with this latest hack, that it was your data that was lost again?

I'm trying to get you to think that possibly, just possibly... that perhaps Sony isn't the only one with these problems. The only reason it's being brought to light is the focus of the attacks on them. If you think Sony is the only one not protecting some data incorrectly then you are naive.

Go ahead and don't bother with Sony again. I don't see your ad on the buy/sell forum yet for the PS3 though. I think it's hilarious to give up on them, go to another company (who's security hasn't been the focus of a large arranged hack yet) and risk it all again. I have the belief that unless you are a bank, your system is most likely not hack proof. Other companies will have the same problems if the focus is directed on them.

And btw... it was never confirmed if your credit card was stolen... only that they put actions in place in case it was.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:04 PM   #194
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And this years winner of the "just doesnt get it" award goes to . . . . .


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And you guys are sure that with this latest hack, that it was your data that was lost again?

I'm trying to get you to think that possibly, just possibly... that perhaps Sony isn't the only one with these problems. The only reason it's being brought to light is the focus of the attacks on them. If you think Sony is the only one not protecting some data incorrectly then you are naive.

Go ahead and don't bother with Sony again. I don't see your ad on the buy/sell forum yet for the PS3 though. I think it's hilarious to give up on them, go to another company (who's security hasn't been the focus of a large arranged hack yet) and risk it all again. I have the belief that unless you are a bank, your system is most likely not hack proof. Other companies will have the same problems if the focus is directed on them.

And btw... it was never confirmed if your credit card was stolen... only that they put actions in place in case it was.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:24 PM   #195
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And this years winner of the "just doesnt get it" award goes to . . . . .
Then reply with a proper response to make me "get it". Are you saying that I think they didn't mess up?
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:48 AM   #196
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Then reply with a proper response to make me "get it". Are you saying that I think they didn't mess up?
No company is hackproof the difference is that a company as big as Sony or any company really should be storing personal information such as credit cards, account info, etc encrypted and not in plain text as Sony did twice so if by chance you do get hacked you get nothing from it.

Its fair for someone to not trust Sony with their personal information anymore as they betrayed the customers trust not once but twice and did nothing after the first time to prevent the second from happening.

Sony is big business not some mom & pop store storing customer information on the home PC, there is no excuse for it.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:21 AM   #197
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Should be interesting to see how Sony handles this in tonight's E3 presentation.

I have to think there's no way credit card data was compromised otherwise we'd see tons of fraud claims.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:48 AM   #198
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Wow, a new hack? Sony Computer Entertainment Developer Network source code https://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/77736347154128897
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:23 AM   #199
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Remind me not to piss off hackers. Jesus. This is beginning to get uncomfortable to watch. It's the same feeling I get when I watch Joe Pesci beat up on somebody in a gangster movie. It's over, just let them bleed!
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