Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1035576882652012544


Creepy "Hunter" creeps up on women. Then proceeds to throw his tire into traffic, which they have to cut/edit becuase it probably hit a car. Well done Edmonton!


E=NG

Is he fingering passing motorists because they're not stopping to let him jaywalk?

[looooob]

I understand was just an exercise but I'm not totally clear how you got these. I understand that Rattie- who's actual career high is 5 gets a 29 due to pro-rating, but why don't Bennett and Frolik (as examples) not get credit for their actual career highs?

[FBI]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Weighted career highs
CALGARY / EDMONTON



MONAHAN 34 GOALS / McDAVID 41 GOALS
TKACHUK 29 GOALS / NUGENT-HOPKINS 32 GOALS
NEAL 29 GOALS / LUCIC 31 GOALS
GAUDREAU 25 GOALS / DRAISAITL 29 GOALS
BACKLUND 22 GOALS / RATTIE 29 GOALS
FROLÍK 19 GOALS / BRODZIAK 22 GOALS
JANKOWSKI 19 GOALS / STROME 17 GOALS
LINDHOLM 16 GOALS / CAGGIULA 16 GOALS
RYAN 15 GOALS / KASSIAN 16 GOALS
BENNETT 13 GOALS / PULJUJÄRVI 15 GOALS
CZARNIK 08 GOALS / RIEDER 13 GOALS
LAZAR 07 GOALS / KHAIRA 13 GOALS
HATHAWAY 06 GOALS / ÅBERG 10 GOALS

GIORDANO 21 GOALS / KLEFBOM 12 GOALS
BRODIE 11 GOALS / NURSE 09 GOALS
HANIFIN 10 GOALS / RUSSELL 08 GOALS
STONE 09 GOALS / BENNING 07 GOALS
HAMONIC 06 GOALS / LARSSON 05 GOALS
PROUT 03 GOALS / JEŘÁBEK 05 GOALS
KULAK 02 GOALS / GRAVEL 02 GOALS


OFFENSE 242 / 284

DEFENSE 62 / 48

TOTAL 304 / 332


You can see why they are deceived up north - but when comparing current potential, the advantage flips, for example, I can't see Lucic or Rattie getting anywhere near those numbers - meanwhile, all the Flames can reach their career highs and even surpass them.

I'm pretty sure Johnny scored 30 one year

[looooob]

Originally Posted by FBI

I'm pretty sure Johnny scored 30 one year

and you should have Spencer Foo 41 goals on there!

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Weighted career highs
CALGARY / EDMONTON



MONAHAN 34 GOALS / McDAVID 41 GOALS
TKACHUK 29 GOALS / NUGENT-HOPKINS 32 GOALS
NEAL 29 GOALS / LUCIC 31 GOALS
GAUDREAU 25 GOALS / DRAISAITL 29 GOALS
BACKLUND 22 GOALS / RATTIE 29 GOALS
FROLÍK 19 GOALS / BRODZIAK 22 GOALS
JANKOWSKI 19 GOALS / STROME 17 GOALS
LINDHOLM 16 GOALS / CAGGIULA 16 GOALS
RYAN 15 GOALS / KASSIAN 16 GOALS
BENNETT 13 GOALS / PULJUJÄRVI 15 GOALS
CZARNIK 08 GOALS / RIEDER 13 GOALS
LAZAR 07 GOALS / KHAIRA 13 GOALS
HATHAWAY 06 GOALS / ÅBERG 10 GOALS

GIORDANO 21 GOALS / KLEFBOM 12 GOALS
BRODIE 11 GOALS / NURSE 09 GOALS
HANIFIN 10 GOALS / RUSSELL 08 GOALS
STONE 09 GOALS / BENNING 07 GOALS
HAMONIC 06 GOALS / LARSSON 05 GOALS
PROUT 03 GOALS / JEŘÁBEK 05 GOALS
KULAK 02 GOALS / GRAVEL 02 GOALS


OFFENSE 242 / 284

DEFENSE 62 / 48

TOTAL 304 / 332


You can see why they are deceived up north - but when comparing current potential, the advantage flips, for example, I can't see Lucic or Rattie getting anywhere near those numbers - meanwhile, all the Flames can reach their career highs and even surpass them.

Wrong. Frolik's weighted career high is 22, Gaudreau's is 31, Neal's is 41, Bennett's is 20, and I'm sure I'm missing more because I didn't look through them all. Redo a lot and then post

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Here's a good poke
10 People Who Need To Be Better



Also mentions the Brodie / Hamonic pairing and Brian Elliott

LOL @ Melnyk #1

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1035576882652012544


Creepy "Hunter" creeps up on women. Then proceeds to throw his tire into traffic, which they have to cut/edit becuase it probably hit a car. Well done Edmonton!


E=NG

Just like the Oilers coming season. Think they're crossing a bridge to chase a girl but then the wheels come off and they start giving the finger to the rest of Edmonton.

[CaptainCrunch]

Steady on Oilers Steady on

https://twitter.com/user/status/1037018282623086593

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Here's a good poke
10 People Who Need To Be Better



Also mentions the Brodie / Hamonic pairing and Brian Elliott

It really is interesting that just by not trading an elite forward Chiarelli had a better offseason - I wonder if any other GM in league history has traded as many top end forwards as him.

He's traded

Phil Kessel (16th among forwards in league scoring the last 4 years)
Blake Wheeler (8th)
Tyler Seguin (10th)
Taylor Hall (23rd)
Jordan Eberle (44th)

for

2 1st round Picks (End up with Seguin & Hamilton but only because the Leafs misjudged their window and still sucked - not really his doing) & a second round pick
Rich Peverly
Boris Valabik
Loui Eriksson
Reilly Smith
Joe Morrow
Matt Fraser
Adam Larsson
Ryan Strome

So pretty much 5 forwards that are all elite or close to elite top line point producers and the return is only saved by the fact that the Leafs sucked after the Kessel trade and gave up high picks. (Counter point is if we want to include "what picks turned into" he also gave up Barzal)

Like if he ends up staying in Edmonton much longer it's pretty much inevitable that he ends up trading one of Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, or Yamamoto for a poor return and they end up staying as a star.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Steady on Oilers Steady on

https://twitter.com/user/status/1037018282623086593

Five Stanley Cups? Check.
Old retired numbers? Check.

I'm surprised they don't just make that their primary logo... just replace the big "40" with a picture of McDavid.

[topfiverecords]

At least they can reuse the patch design for every future decade because they're not winning any more cups.

[Boreal]

Hmmm... Darn Nurse still isn’t signed. Weird.

[McG]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Steady on Oilers Steady on

https://twitter.com/user/status/1037018282623086593

#betterwithbanners

[Boreal]

Hmmm... Darn Nurse still isn’t signed. Weird.

[Bingo]

Didn't they announce someone was dead that wasn't at one of those drawn out building openings?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Didn't they announce someone was dead that wasn't at one of those drawn out building openings?

Yup: https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/a-fo...-cote/c-881728

[JackIsBack]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Wrong. Frolik's weighted career high is 22, Gaudreau's is 31, Neal's is 41, Bennett's is 20, and I'm sure I'm missing more because I didn't look through them all. Redo a lot and then post

Really.... I hate to point this out...but if I were to use your math... Gaudreau would be at 82 goals... I took some statistical liberties in my calculations - to get fairer numbers. You see, if someone scored 10 goals in 20 games one year, and then 20 in 60 games - their career "seasonal" high is really 20 goals... weighting that, you get 27 goals... if I were to take their non-career high, but their higher goals per game season, I'd get 41 goals... but I feel that 27 goals is more realistic... don't you? I hope Johnny scores 82 goals.... I really DO!

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

Really.... I hate to point this out...but if I were to use your math... Gaudreau would be at 82 goals... I took some statistical liberties in my calculations - to get fairer numbers. You see, if someone scored 10 goals in 20 games one year, and then 20 in 60 games - their career "seasonal" high is really 20 goals... weighting that, you get 27 goals... if I were to take their non-career high, but their higher goals per game season, I'd get 41 goals... but I feel that 27 goals is more realistic... don't you? I hope Johnny scores 82 goals.... I really DO!

Okay let's be real buddy. Neal had 40 in 80, Gaudreau 30 in 80, Frolik 21 in 79, Bennett 18 in 77. So their weighted averages are a bit higher. But they did play a large amount of games, so I think it's fair. You shouldn't be making Gaudreau have 82 goals because he had 1 in 1, but 30 in 80 can be changed to 31 as a weighted average, yes.

So basically what you're telling me is Neal's 40, Gaudreau's 30, Frolik's 21 and Bennett's 18 are not realistic, even if they all played most of the season.

But what's not realistic is Rattie's 29, Aberg's 10, Brodziak's 22 and Nuge's 32.

I'd say my weighted averages are the realistic ones

[AC]

Rattie's 29 goals is hilarious.

[The Boy Wonder]

If Rattie gets more goals than Brouwer I will be amazed.

Other impact that isn't being discussed is that GG is now an assistant coach in Edmonton, There will be some trickle down mismanagement even if he isn't the HC...