Just bought another car. I’m exhausted. The process is so brutal. Wife put a deposit on it last week(for some reason) with general agreement on price. We see it on their site for less than that price. Same VIN. So say have it ready for us to final test drive at X time and have numbers with that discount on your website. Also get some numbers on winter tires.
We had told them we are in a hurry because we need to feed these hockey kids before game. Car is an ice cube. Throw it in the garage for ten minutes ffs. So we have to scrape windows. Brand new car.
Come back from test drive ten minutes later. Buddy has f’ed off with another customer on a test drive and want us to sit in the office for 45 minutes waiting. They do that prisoner thing where they force you to sit there for excessive time. They all seem to do that.
I snapped and walked out complete with double backward middle fingers. You guys are snakes. You had a sale, I will eat the deposit. Wife stayed back to get the deposit. I’m angry in the car for 15 minutes. They gotta keep you in the casino. Much lower price now and winter tires added. Ok, walked back in and it’s the sales manager. He was great. Asked why they do the hold you hostage in the office thing? He said they don’t do that. You all do that. Guess they won in the end.
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^ The entire process is exasperating. You show up, and have to sit around waiting for ever and deal with someone who can’t commit to a price because they have to ask their manager. And the entire process takes forever. It’s hours of time and then you walk out feeling like you probably got a terrible deal.
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Just bought another car. I’m exhausted. The process is so brutal. Wife put a deposit on it last week(for some reason) with general agreement on price. We see it on their site for less than that price. Same VIN. So say have it ready for us to final test drive at X time and have numbers with that discount on your website. Also get some numbers on winter tires.
We had told them we are in a hurry because we need to feed these hockey kids before game. Car is an ice cube. Throw it in the garage for ten minutes ffs. So we have to scrape windows. Brand new car.
Come back from test drive ten minutes later. Buddy has f’ed off with another customer on a test drive and want us to sit in the office for 45 minutes waiting. They do that prisoner thing where they force you to sit there for excessive time. They all seem to do that.
I snapped and walked out complete with double backward middle fingers. You guys are snakes. You had a sale, I will eat the deposit. Wife stayed back to get the deposit. I’m angry in the car for 15 minutes. They gotta keep you in the casino. Much lower price now and winter tires added. Ok, walked back in and it’s the sales manager. He was great. Asked why they do the hold you hostage in the office thing? He said they don’t do that. You all do that. Guess they won in the end.
My plan was to replace our aging family hauler this summer but unfortunately it seems to be killing the transfer case over the last week so it looks like my vehicle shopping is going to happen much sooner than expected which sucks. There really is nothing out on the market that interests me very much. I'm also struggling to figure out if I get another bigger family hauler for longer road trips/camping which is infrequent or if I should just get something smaller for everyday usage and just get a rooftop carrier for the occasional trip. I was initially thinking of a Maverick Hybrid AWD but those seem to be tough to find.
3 days ago I had a nice clean driveway and sidewalk...now it's a crusty icy mess that's likely here to stay. Love it when you go from plus 3 with rain to minus 14 with snow stuck to everything in 3 hours. Short of those massive torches that my old workplace used to preheat steel to 300 degrees not sure what else will fix this mess.
Seriously though, I have one of the below and have been meaning to try it. $60 on amazon and attaches to your propane tank:
3 days ago I had a nice clean driveway and sidewalk...now it's a crusty icy mess that's likely here to stay. Love it when you go from plus 3 with rain to minus 14 with snow stuck to everything in 3 hours. Short of those massive torches that my old workplace used to preheat steel to 300 degrees not sure what else will fix this mess.
Ya I feel like the last couple weeks keeping the sidewalk / driveway non-snow packed / icy mess has been expert level difficulty. Just with the timing of everything. Been so ####ing busy with work and kids stuff I'm not at home 24/7 to keep it shoveled and then it gets walked all over. I don't have the time or desire to go scraping away all the snow that's packed down so #### it. I went into this cold spell 2-3 weeks ago with the best intentions to keep a nice clean sidewalk / driveway but it literally was impossible for me, despite being relatively dedicated to it.
Just bought another car. I’m exhausted. The process is so brutal. Wife put a deposit on it last week(for some reason) with general agreement on price. We see it on their site for less than that price. Same VIN. So say have it ready for us to final test drive at X time and have numbers with that discount on your website. Also get some numbers on winter tires.
We had told them we are in a hurry because we need to feed these hockey kids before game. Car is an ice cube. Throw it in the garage for ten minutes ffs. So we have to scrape windows. Brand new car.
Come back from test drive ten minutes later. Buddy has f’ed off with another customer on a test drive and want us to sit in the office for 45 minutes waiting. They do that prisoner thing where they force you to sit there for excessive time. They all seem to do that.
I snapped and walked out complete with double backward middle fingers. You guys are snakes. You had a sale, I will eat the deposit. Wife stayed back to get the deposit. I’m angry in the car for 15 minutes. They gotta keep you in the casino. Much lower price now and winter tires added. Ok, walked back in and it’s the sales manager. He was great. Asked why they do the hold you hostage in the office thing? He said they don’t do that. You all do that. Guess they won in the end.
Sorry this is a hilarious post and so true. I don't understand why they can't just a) be upfront and honest and b) respect your time and c) treat you like an actual customer of value.
It's like the above is some kind of impossible task for them.
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I used to be in the car business when I was in my late teens - early 20s before moving here for my tech career. Sales back then was way different and frankly a lot better than it is today as I have experienced it. The only places I've had a good sales experience were Aston Martin Bentley in the Glenmore Automall, Kulu Motorcar just off Macleod, and my first two deals at the original BMW Gallery Crowfoot location back in 2007. (Frankly, the first two I mention should be nothing less than stellar, so expectation met.)
Buying my L405 was annoying because I felt like I had to hand-hold the staff through getting answers to my questions. The staff you deal with at Calgary Land Rover directly as a customer are NOT empowered to tell you anything, even the ones that used to be when I did the job (like finance managers). Every question I had needed to flow up to either the sales manager or to the "finance director"... even just to tell me the bloody INTEREST RATE ON THE QUOTE for which they're asking my signature to enshrine as an official offer.
I assume it’s just the nature of having a business where everyone comes in demanding a cheaper price. You have to do something to try and maintain margins.
My last two vehicle purchase was the ford x-plan (no negotiation) and just telling them what I was willing to pay and call when ready. Worked out well in both cases.
I want to know which restaurants in town serve sticky tofee pudding. I know buchanans, saltlik, chairmans and Kensington Pub do. Surely google could figure this out for me, but no, it seems like it's worse than it was 10 years ago.
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I want to know which restaurants in town serve sticky tofee pudding. I know buchanans, saltlik, chairmans and Kensington Pub do. Surely google could figure this out for me, but no, it seems like it's worse than it was 10 years ago.
Just ask Grok...what could go wrong?
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The Google AI summary returns this for "which restaurants in calgary serve sticky toffee pudding.":
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Calgary has many spots for Sticky Toffee Pudding, with popular choices including Buchanan's Chop House, The Lake House, Ten Foot Henry, and Kildare's Ale House, known for their excellent versions; you can also find it at pubs like The Kensington Pub, Hudsons, and Earls, plus other notable spots like Saltlik and The Dorset Pub, so check their current menus for this classic British dessert.
with some breakdowns below of restaurant summaries. Is that not what you need?
I have found a lot of local based searches within classic Google suck more than they used to. Adding "Calgary" or "Canada" doesn't have the same affect on results it used to, I don't think.
ChatGPT returned these options: Fineprint - 113 8 Avenue SW Wellington's - 10325 Bonaventure Drive SE The Lake House - 747 Lake Bonavista Drive SE
If given a more specific location, it returns better results. It gave me 12 locations in downtown / Beltine / Mission, and also specified which of them "are closest to the 'classic British' recipe":
- Buchanan’s
- Saltlik
- The Guild
- Shoe & Canoe
- Owens Landing
- Joyce on 4th
Only 'Joyce on 4th' seems to be a mistake, as they offer a "Guinness Chocolate Bread & Butter Pudding".
The Google AI summary returns this for "which restaurants in calgary serve sticky toffee pudding.":
with some breakdowns below of restaurant summaries. Is that not what you need?
I have found a lot of local based searches within classic Google suck more than they used to. Adding "Calgary" or "Canada" doesn't have the same affect on results it used to, I don't think.
Ten Foot Henry does not serve sticky toffee pudding. Butterscotch pudding is their signature dessert and some people have referenced STP in reviews of it.
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I assume it’s just the nature of having a business where everyone comes in demanding a cheaper price. You have to do something to try and maintain margins.
My last two vehicle purchase was the ford x-plan (no negotiation) and just telling them what I was willing to pay and call when ready. Worked out well in both cases.
Maybe everyone wants a cheaper price because the margins are ####ing ludicrous?
You ever known a person that owns a dealership? Because if you do, you’ll know to not feel bad for them.
You said “you have to do something to maintain margins”, as if there was no other choice but to be slimey greaseballs. Disagree. They have a choice in how they treat customers.
You said “you have to do something to maintain margins”, as if there was no other choice but to be slimey greaseballs. Disagree. They have a choice in how they treat customers.
They do what they feel they need to to make money. I don’t feel bad for them or endorse any of the predatory tactics they use.
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