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Old 09-21-2024, 11:02 AM   #2161
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Jeez this guy shouldn't be on YouTube. Freaky eyes and weird delivery.

It's pretty selective reading of the sales figures.

Germany is way down to last year, yes. But August last year saw an absolutely giant jump in sales due to the expiring subsidy and the subsequent rush to conclude sales before the subsidy expired. Overall it's just fairly flat (only 1.5% down if adjusting). And plug in hybrid sales plummeted, not increasing there. Then you have to look at overall vehicle sales down 28% due to macro economic factors and you can see the picture isn't really anti EV.

Then take California in his example. Yes EV sales are trending slightly down in the state, but it's not maybe what it seems. Tesla is waaay down and almost every other manufacturer's EV sales are up. Polling in California shows Musk has managed to massively kill Tesla's brand appeal. Considering Tesla is responsible for way more than half of EV sales, that seems to be an issue more than people not wanting EVs. Overall EV sales in the US increased again this year.

In Canada, EV sales have increased yet again to a 13% market share. There's no sign of slowing here. In Alberta it's below 5% (2.5% was the only number I could find but may be a bit old) so perhaps people aren't seeing it there.

China is seeing massive growth, but I don't see that being contained to China forever. They're now over 50% of new sales having a plug and full battery electric sales are growing faster than phevs. They'll sell those cheap EVs elsewhere.

As for brands, Hyundai is seeing massive growth in it's EV sales, Ford is seeing a drop in overall vehicle sales but high double digit increases in EV sales. GM is about to see sales of it's EV fleet increase as well with two new trucks and the Equinox/Blazer now being EV.

There's certainly a decrease in growth, but it's still very much growing almost everywhere. As prices continue to come down and familiarity grows, that trend will only increase. We're still early on in this.

Seriously we see this, then declare EV sales may be dead??? That's hilariously click baity


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Old 09-21-2024, 11:04 AM   #2162
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EV batteries are likely to outlive vehicles they’re in, finds latest Geotab data Batteries

Telematics provider’s new research finds batteries degrade just 1.8 per cent per year on average — meaning EV batteries can typically last more than 20 years

https://electricautonomy.ca/ev-suppl...y-geotab-data/

Comment: it always seems to take up to a decade for any new technology to become "proven"
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Old 09-21-2024, 11:20 AM   #2163
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EV batteries are likely to outlive vehicles they’re in, finds latest Geotab data Batteries

Telematics provider’s new research finds batteries degrade just 1.8 per cent per year on average — meaning EV batteries can typically last more than 20 years

https://electricautonomy.ca/ev-suppl...y-geotab-data/

Comment: it always seems to take up to a decade for any new technology to become "proven"
Saw a funny headline about that "New research shows your EV's battery will last longer than your marriage"
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Not surprised about Hyundai's EVs, they're one of the few manufacturers that have them actually available and at a reasonable price.
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Old 09-22-2024, 11:55 AM   #2165
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600,000 km / 15 yr warranty to 85 capacity

https://batteryindustry.tech/catl-st...last-15-years/
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600,000 km / 15 yr warranty to 85 capacity

https://batteryindustry.tech/catl-st...last-15-years/
And it's the world's largest battery maker. They've got the data to show their bet is solid. They make about 40 of all EV batteries too
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Old 09-23-2024, 10:44 AM   #2167
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600,000 km / 15 yr warranty to 85 capacity

https://batteryindustry.tech/catl-st...last-15-years/
Point stands, but 600,000 miles, not km. That's around 965,000 km.
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Had a couple hours to waste before I had to be at the airport, so I stopped by the Rivian dealer in Burnaby, and took a R1T for a test drive. Sat in an R1S.

Nice vehicles. If only they weren’t so far out of my price range.
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The R2 looks to be significantly cheaper (maybe $55k)

https://stories.rivian.com/meet-r2-and-r3
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The R2 looks to be significantly cheaper (maybe $55k)

https://stories.rivian.com/meet-r2-and-r3
Only starting to build them in 2026 I think.
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Only starting to build them in 2026 I think.
Yes, and I'll bet my house the starting price goes up by then
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