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Old 09-20-2024, 09:49 PM   #261
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There isn't a single player who does that in baseball. Maybe a pitcher but even then one player doesn't make that much of a marked improvement to a team this bad.
7.7 WAR

The Jays have been dressing guys with negative WAR almost all season, so lets say 8 extra wins

Jays would be 81-73 and in the wild card
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White Sox have lost 120. 6 games to go.
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3 left vs the Angels and 3 vs the now in the playoffs Tigers. I so badly want 3 more losses if not more.
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Ohtani 53 HR 55 steals with 6 games to go. Completely blowing away what anyone thought was possible.
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Ohtani 53 HR 55 steals with 6 games to go. Completely blowing away what anyone thought was possible.
you watch Ohtani hit and wonder, how does he barely hit .300? He should be close to .400! Maybe if he shortened his swing a little?

I guess if you watch him everyday, there's at least an 0 for 4 or 0 for 5 once a week, that seems impossible.
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Ohtani 53 HR 55 steals with 6 games to go. Completely blowing away what anyone thought was possible.
Yeah. Judge only has 55 HR. I wonder what the most steals someone has had who led mlb in HR (or even their league, which Ohtani will do)
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Yeah. Judge only has 55 HR. I wonder what the most steals someone has had who led mlb in HR (or even their league, which Ohtani will do)
I think it's ARod in 2007 54/24
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the now in the playoffs Tigers.

This is a story that should be told more. While a Jays fan first, I have started following the Tigers the last couple of years as our local AAA team (Mud Hens) is their affiliate and have sent to Detroit many of their prominent players this year.

9.5 games back of the Wild Card as recently as Aug 22 to now having a 1.0 GM lead on the Twins and tied with the Royals. Highlights a huge resurgence in Detroit and massive potential choke jobs from both Minnesota and Kansas City. Reminds me of the 2007 Colorado Rockies
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This is a story that should be told more. While a Jays fan first, I have started following the Tigers the last couple of years as our local AAA team (Mud Hens) is their affiliate and have sent to Detroit many of their prominent players this year.

9.5 games back of the Wild Card as recently as Aug 22 to now having a 1.0 GM lead on the Twins and tied with the Royals. Highlights a huge resurgence in Detroit and massive potential choke jobs from both Minnesota and Kansas City. Reminds me of the 2007 Colorado Rockies
I think there's a bit of an asterix there though. The AL central is sending 3 teams to the playoffs this year (and looks like the first non-playoff team is from that division as well). An extra 6-7 games against the historically bad White Sox is an advantage that's probably worth a few extra wins.
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Yeah. Judge only has 55 HR. I wonder what the most steals someone has had who led mlb in HR (or even their league, which Ohtani will do)
I'm pretty sure it's Canseco with his 40/40 campaign. Pretty sure he led the league with 42 homeruns and had 40 steals.
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I think there's a bit of an asterix there though. The AL central is sending 3 teams to the playoffs this year (and looks like the first non-playoff team is from that division as well). An extra 6-7 games against the historically bad White Sox is an advantage that's probably worth a few extra wins.
In a sample size this small it's worth 1-2 wins more than against the other last place teams.

It's not like Detroit closed ground on everyone else because the had 10 of 25 games vs the White Sox. It's like 4 of their last 43 in which they're 29-14. They've also had the Angels, Rockies, and A's in there too. But you still have to beat the bad teams and maybe they're record early on was skewed because they had more games versus better teams.

It's not like the days where Division teams played each other 18 times and the Blue Jays could win 87 games by beating the Orioles 16 times.
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In a sample size this small it's worth 1-2 wins more than against the other last place teams.

It's not like Detroit closed ground on everyone else because the had 10 of 25 games vs the White Sox. It's like 4 of their last 43 in which they're 29-14. They've also had the Angels, Rockies, and A's in there too. But you still have to beat the bad teams and maybe they're record early on was skewed because they had more games versus better teams.



It's not like the days where Division teams played each other 18 times and the Blue Jays could win 87 games by beating the Orioles 16 times.
I agree with the math that its probably only worth ~2 wins, but I also think there's a good chance one of the AL central teams will make the post season by 2 games or less.
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I agree with the math that its probably only worth ~2 wins, but I also think there's a good chance one of the AL central teams will make the post season by 2 games or less.
Make or miss? 3 AL Central teams likely get in. It's not like the White Sox lost 120 games because their Division was brutally difficult. The 4 AL Central teams are above average and still would be if the Jays and White Sox switched places. It will have more to do with the fact that the Mariners sucked badly enough that they couldn't take advantage of Division with a weak team in Texas and two bad ones.
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I think it's ARod in 2007 54/24
I can't think of anyone higher than Canseco listed above, but a few other HR leaders that I could find that swiped more than Arod's 24 would include


Larry Walker 1997 - 33 steals
Hank Aaron 1963 - 31 steals
Barry Bonds 1993- 29 steals


I guess all of which underscores how ridiculous Ohtani's stat line is
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I have nothing of substance to add other than Larry Walker was incredible. That 97 season is one of the best all time.
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I have nothing of substance to add other than Larry Walker was incredible. That 97 season is one of the best all time.
what was even more impressive with Larry Walker was when he was informed he would be going in the HOF, he was rocking a fantastic sponge bob shirt. classic
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Los dodgers just hit into a game-ending triple play.
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Angels blew a 2-0 lead in the bottom of the 8th. White Sox avoid their record setting 121st loss.
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