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Old 10-03-2019, 11:11 AM   #1581
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:08 PM   #1582
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But you don't even need a special licence other than a Class 5 (to my knowledge - I stand to be corrected on this)

Class 1 - anything
Class 2 - all buses, ambulances
Class 3 - 3-axels
Class 4 - commercial use (taxi, limo, small bus)
Class 5 - the rest
Class 6 - motorcycles
Class 7 - learner


Then there are other qualifications like air brakes and
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:20 PM   #1583
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One of my first memories of watching television was Knight Rider, when the villain of the story was a giant indestructible semi, that tore through buildings, cars and people with equal abandon.

So now if I self identify (Trudeau) as a farmer (Kenney) the bridge between dream and reality draw so much nearer. I love legislation that protects me from knowledge, and then allows me to blame it on someone else.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:23 PM   #1584
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Class 1 - anything
Class 2 - all buses, ambulances
Class 3 - 3-axels
Class 4 - commercial use (taxi, limo, small bus)
Class 5 - the rest
Class 6 - motorcycles
Class 7 - learner


Then there are other qualifications like air brakes and
I think buses should have it’s own class, especially school bus.
Class 1 is everything except motorcycles.
I have a class 1 but I have no clue what the rules are for driving school bus.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:24 AM   #1585
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Insiders detail the last days of Jason Kenney’s campaign to be leader of Alberta's United Conservative Party

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/long...e-jason-kenney

This is a pretty big deal-Hoping the RCMP are looking into it as much as the CBC is.

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Old 10-04-2019, 09:40 AM   #1586
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Wow. Pretty pathetic of Kenny to abuse the immigrant community like that just to scramble to the top of the scrap heap. Guy is a real piece of work.
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I am surprised that Elections Alberta wasn't already observing any of this. I thought they would have at least been aware of methods, procedures, etc.

Sounds like we need to tighten up the political party nominations process. It seems like JK and his crew used confusion and intended misunderstandings about the tech involved when it comes to VPNs, PINs, and vote counting with his election staff. Taking advantage of them indeed.

If any of this is confirmed, I still don't know why he would cheat - he was likely going to win any way. That said, a 30 point margin on Jean's campaign, and Jean specifically calling out cheating should be enough to raise eyebrows for anyone who voted in that race.
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Old 10-04-2019, 10:32 AM   #1588
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On an Alberta-related piece of news as well, Sandy Garossino with the National Observer did an interesting piece on the foreign-funded activism again Alberta, a central theme to our provincial government's brand of politics.

Whether you believe there is foreign-funded activism or not - or what you think about the source and publication - it's an interesting read:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1179912021170515969
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Old 10-04-2019, 10:34 AM   #1589
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Not meaning this in a derogatory way, but genuinely curious.. have the UCP done anything that has been universally panned as positive or tangible for the province?

All I've really seen is a lot of finger pointing and rhetoric so far in the paper
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:14 AM   #1590
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Not meaning this in a derogatory way, but genuinely curious.. have the UCP done anything that has been universally panned as positive or tangible for the province?

All I've really seen is a lot of finger pointing and rhetoric so far in the paper
Yeah, nothing.

I wasn't a fan of the NDP for many reasons, but I'll admit, at least it felt like someone had their hand on the wheel...
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On an Alberta-related piece of news as well, Sandy Garossino with the National Observer did an interesting piece on the foreign-funded activism again Alberta, a central theme to our provincial government's brand of politics.

Whether you believe there is foreign-funded activism or not - or what you think about the source and publication - it's an interesting read:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1179912021170515969
What a bizarre article. It confirms what Vivian Krause has found as well, that American money has been flowing to stop Canadian oil projects. I guess she's trying to frame it as a counter balance to Kenney and Krause through ridiculous straw man arguments, non-sequiturs, and greatly expanding the scope of global environment donations but she hilariously proves Kenney's point.

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At its core, this theory, which Jason Kenney has adopted as the Alberta government's, is that the province has been targeted by a cabal of American foundations led by the Rockefellers in a deliberate campaign of economic sabotage.

By directing money and influence to an anti-pipeline movement called the Tar Sands Campaign, these foundations seek to advance American energy interests by landlocking Canadian oil.
I could be wrong, but I've never heard Kenney say that they were doing this to advance American energy interests. That's a straw man that this lady has made up and spends a lot of the article trying to disprove, when no one's asserted that. The first part, that they've launched a campaign to landlock Canadian oil, is what people are upset about and she hilariously goes on to show that that's happening! I guess she thinks she's debunking it when she's arguing that there's no proof for the motivations she made up when all anyone's been concerned about so far is the actions.

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Nobody cares about foreign money, least of all Jason Kenney.

No sooner did the premier release the terms of his foreign funding inquiry than he set off for New York, cap in hand, to raise more foreign money for the oil industry.

The Canadian oil and gas industry, jauntily waving the maple leaf, is loaded with over a hundred billion dollars in foreign ownership. It sells millions of barrels of oil to foreigners every day, and now wants a pipeline to increase the foreign markets it can sell to.

And all of this is cheered on daily in a foreign-controlled national newspaper chain.

That's just by way of a little perspective.
And then this non-sequiter just reveals this person's bias and poor arguments. Yeah, foreign investment to grow value and foreign obstruction dollars to destroy value are really the same thing. I have no idea how this is at all relevant. So if you're for good-faith investment dollars that basically every country on earth covets to grow their economy, you have to also be ok with foreign dollars incoming specifically to destroy value for citizens. Sure.

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According to Candid’s data, since 2009 over 100,000 charitable foundations and non-governmental funders have granted some $700 billion to recipient organizations worldwide.

Of that number, roughly 1,800 private foundations committed more than $4.9 billion specifically to climate initiatives. Just five foundations granted half of that figure.

Of that nearly $5 billion, American-based recipients received an overwhelming $2.9 billion — or 59 per cent — of all climate grants. Almost $2 billion was divided between the European Union, China and India.

$51 million went to Canadian climate projects, of which roughly $40 million was granted to dozens of small organizations organized as the Tar Sands Campaign, and most of the balance went to the Montreal-based Global Campaign for Climate Action
This is my favorite part. Remember the title of this article, "A data-based dismantling of Jason Kenney's foreign-based funding conspiracy theory". She LITERALLY shows here that $40 million went to the Tar sands campaign, with the stated goal of land locking Canadian energy, from foreign sources. She just disproved the central thesis of her whole article. But somehow muddying the water by comparing that to charitable donations worldwide shows Albertans are out to lunch. Does the website have an editor? Somehow I don't think we'll see this hard hitting analysis published in a reputable newspaper.

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On an Alberta-related piece of news as well, Sandy Garossino with the National Observer did an interesting piece on the foreign-funded activism again Alberta, a central theme to our provincial government's brand of politics.

Whether you believe there is foreign-funded activism or not - or what you think about the source and publication - it's an interesting read:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1179912021170515969
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:45 AM   #1593
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On an Alberta-related piece of news as well, Sandy Garossino with the National Observer did an interesting piece on the foreign-funded activism again Alberta, a central theme to our provincial government's brand of politics.

Whether you believe there is foreign-funded activism or not - or what you think about the source and publication - it's an interesting read:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1179912021170515969
That article is pretty hard to dissemble. There is a lot of confirmation bias going on, and it's difficult to separate from simple data collection because the data is collected to support a particular viewpoint. It's hard to tell if her conclusions are valid.

I miss old time journalism.
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Not meaning this in a derogatory way, but genuinely curious.. have the UCP done anything that has been universally panned as positive or tangible for the province?

All I've really seen is a lot of finger pointing and rhetoric so far in the paper
It's not uncommon for a party to spend the first year resting on rhetoric. That said, I think that it takes most governments a long time to do anything, and the effects of what does happen often takes a long time to take shape as well.

It's a part of the reason why I found how upset people were with the NDP immediately so funny. As if in 4 years they would be able to do much of anything in the face of 44 years of conservative policy making.

Truth is the UCP don't have to do much, because the policy structures in Alberta are already so conservative. They, more or less, have to keep the status quo, and feed their base rhetoric. They have almost nothing to prove, so long as they can continue to deflect blame.

The NDP however, tried to do something similar blaming any issues they had on the previous 44 years, but eventually it rang empty. It'll be interesting to see how voters feel after this government goes back to the polls.
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This is my favorite part. Remember the title of this article, "A data-based dismantling of Jason Kenney's foreign-based funding conspiracy theory". She LITERALLY shows here that $40 million went to the Tar sands campaign, with the stated goal of land locking Canadian energy, from foreign sources. She just disproved the central thesis of her whole article. But somehow muddying the water by comparing that to charitable donations worldwide shows Albertans are out to lunch. Does the website have an editor? Somehow I don't think we'll see this hard hitting analysis published in a reputable newspaper.
This is the central plank in Kenney's conspiracy theory:

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“I believe having foreign interest groups funnel tens or perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars into a campaign designed massively to damage our vital economic interests is a matter of the greatest public concern,” Kenney said. “The energy industry and the emissions challenge are global. The question then is, why is the anti-energy campaign so overwhelmingly and disproportionately focused on one major producer?
SOURCE: https://globalnews.ca/news/5462388/k...lists-funding/

It seems to me (on a quick read) that this article thoroughly discredits that premise (that the anti-energy campaign is overwhelmingly and disproportionately focused on Alberta), no?
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The NDP however, tried to do something similar blaming any issues they had on the previous 44 years, but eventually it rang empty. It'll be interesting to see how voters feel after this government goes back to the polls.
Until the RCMP investigation is finished, I don't trust the UCP with polls or voting at this current moment in time
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Re:The so called "Kenney's conspiracy theory"

Its good rhetoric - "us vs them" is politics 101.
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This is the central plank in Kenney's conspiracy theory:



SOURCE: https://globalnews.ca/news/5462388/k...lists-funding/

It seems to me (on a quick read) that this article thoroughly discredits that premise (that the anti-energy campaign is overwhelmingly and disproportionately focused on Alberta), no?
Isn't $40 million on the Tar Sands group out of $51 million spent in Canada, disproportionate?
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It's not uncommon for a party to spend the first year resting on rhetoric. That said, I think that it takes most governments a long time to do anything, and the effects of what does happen often takes a long time to take shape as well.
It didn’t take them very long to implement their pro-employer changes to the labour code, or to implement their tax breaks for businesses. The latter was by their own admission done before they even knew what our fiscal situation actually looked like. They’re clearly willing and able to make changes quickly, at least when businesses are the ones making the ask.
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The other thing that Karuse’s data makes clear is that Canadians are funding attacks against the oil sands far more than the foreign organizations.
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