07-20-2019, 01:27 PM
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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I would have thought the best time to do the 2021 expansion draft list would have been 2021, but that's just me.
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07-20-2019, 01:28 PM
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#3
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CMPunk
I would have thought the best time to do the 2021 expansion draft list would have been 2021, but that's just me.
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I just saw so many posters who were unaware of the implications of the Lucic trade.
Hopefully this thread can make them more aware of the implications.
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07-20-2019, 01:28 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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NTC do not have to be protected, only NMC.
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07-20-2019, 01:30 PM
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#5
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
I just saw so many posters who were unaware of the implications of the Lucic trade.
Hopefully this thread can make them more aware of the implications.
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Lots can happen in two years. I'm not worried about this trade and the expansion draft.
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07-20-2019, 01:30 PM
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#6
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
NTC do not have to be protected, only NMC.
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I didn't know that.
In that case
Forwards:
Lucic
Tkachuk
Gaudreau
Monahan
Lindholm
Bennett
Dube
Defence:
Hanafin
Valimaki
Andersson
Goalie:
Rittich
Not so bad actually
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07-20-2019, 01:34 PM
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#7
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
I didn't know that.
In that case
Forwards:
Lucic
Tkachuk
Gaudreau
Monahan
Lindholm
Bennett
Dube
Defence:
Hanafin
Valimaki
Andersson
Goalie:
Rittich
Not so bad actually
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I understand you're projecting what might occur by 2021, but protecting Dube over Backlund seems very unlikely at this point.
(Side note, will Dube even need to be protected? What's the minimum experience needed to be eligible?)
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07-20-2019, 01:35 PM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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Why does anyone think that Lucic will have to be protected because he has a NMC? Pretty much everyone of consequence with a NMC last expansion draft waived it.
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07-20-2019, 01:35 PM
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#9
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
Why does anyone think that Lucic will have to be protected because he has a NMC? Pretty much everyone of consequence with a NMC last expansion draft waived it.
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Phaneuf didn't
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07-20-2019, 01:37 PM
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#10
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Can someone explain to me why we still think Lucic has NMC status when expansion draft happens.
It is listed clear as day that it converts to NTC on June 1, 2021 the same month the expansion draft takes place.
NMC players must be protected. NTC do not.
Is Capfriendly incorrect that it is a NTC at that time?
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07-20-2019, 01:38 PM
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#11
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
After the Lucic trade yesterday I couldn't think of a better time to start the 2021 expansion draft thread (lol)
So lets see everyone's list. I'll start.
Obviously we have big bad Milan Lucic as our #1 protected forward due to his no movement clause and the fact that we have to protect him due to that clause. If he's not on your list then your list is wrong. It's already been confirmed that the Flames will be honoring his NMC. Speculating that he will waive to go to Seattle is just that, speculation. So I'll include him on my list.
I'll go the 7 forwards 3 defenceman and 1 goalie route.
Forwards:
Lucic (NMC)
Tkachuk
Monahan
Gaudreau
Lindholm
Bennett
Backlund (NTC)
Defence:
Gio (NTC)
Hanafin
Valimaki
Goalie:
Rittich (probably)
I might switch Andersson for Hanafin but we'll see how the next couple years go.
the 4 and 4 and 1 goalie looks even worse to be honest
Lucic
Backlund
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Gio
Valimaki
Andersson
Hanafin
Rittich
yuck
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I suspect both Gio and Backlund will not be protected, I also believe Lucic will waive for the good of the team knowing he wouldn't be selected anyway.
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07-20-2019, 01:39 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
Phaneuf didn't
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That's why I didn't say everyone.
Ladd and Spezza are pretty much the only other ones who potentially could have been left off (in my opinion). But then I'm not even sure if either were asked to waive (I know Phaneuf was and declined to).
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07-20-2019, 01:41 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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If Kylington develops a 4/4 might make sense assuming Lucic waives
Tkachuk, JG, Mony, Lindholm
Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington, Hanifn
You lose Bennet, Backlund or Dube instead of Kylington. Doesn’t work if Lucic doesn’t waive.
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07-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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#14
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Can someone explain to me why we still think Lucic has NMC status when expansion draft happens.
It is listed clear as day that it converts to NTC on June 1, 2021 the same month the expansion draft takes place.
NMC players must be protected. NTC do not.
Is Capfriendly incorrect that it is a NTC at that time?
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He will have a NTC and NMC so he can't be demoted to AHL which a NTC doesn't cover. I have no doubt in my mind that he would waive his NMC when it comes time though.
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07-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Can someone explain to me why we still think Lucic has NMC status when expansion draft happens.
It is listed clear as day that it converts to NTC on June 1, 2021 the same month the expansion draft takes place.
NMC players must be protected. NTC do not.
Is Capfriendly incorrect that it is a NTC at that time?
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Cap Friendly states 10 team NTC, NMC for 2021
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/milan-lucic
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07-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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#16
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Can someone explain to me why we still think Lucic has NMC status when expansion draft happens.
It is listed clear as day that it converts to NTC on June 1, 2021 the same month the expansion draft takes place.
NMC players must be protected. NTC do not.
Is Capfriendly incorrect that it is a NTC at that time?
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He still has a MNC during his last years.
That's a clear as day too.
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07-20-2019, 01:43 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
Why does anyone think that Lucic will have to be protected because he has a NMC? Pretty much everyone of consequence with a NMC last expansion draft waived it.
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This.
Even Treliving said he thinks it won't be a problem
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07-20-2019, 01:47 PM
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#18
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Can someone explain to me why we still think Lucic has NMC status when expansion draft happens.
It is listed clear as day that it converts to NTC on June 1, 2021 the same month the expansion draft takes place.
NMC players must be protected. NTC do not.
Is Capfriendly incorrect that it is a NTC at that time?
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Is capfriendly wrong? This article says he would need to waive his NMC for the expansion draft
Edit: apparently we can't link to that site
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07-20-2019, 02:52 PM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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So you started another thread two years in advance of the draft to make a backhanded complaint about the trade?
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07-20-2019, 02:54 PM
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#20
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#1 Goaltender
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Lucic should just come out and say he will waive for the expansion draft. Create instant goodwill amongst the fans. Start the relationship off on a positive note.
Seattle isn’t going to claim him
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