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Old 06-23-2017, 12:39 PM   #581
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TJ Oshie being strongly considered to replace Panarin and play with Kane. May have to take less money. #Blackhawks will sell chance to win

They would have to move Hossa and Kruger but I could see it work.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:43 PM   #582
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Hossa has already said he's not playing this year and Bettman stated no need to invistigate cap circumvention so his entire 5.275 will go LTIR once season starts.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:45 PM   #583
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Hossa has already said he's not playing this year and Bettman stated no need to invistigate cap circumvention so his entire 5.275 will go LTIR once season starts.
Still not that easy though as Weitz summarized:

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As Lebrun has mentioned. They still can't put him on LTIR till day 2 of the regular season. So they can't add a player until then. And the process repeats every year.

It's not magical cap space.
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F you Blackhawks.

Hope he walks away. Tired of that team getting amazing fortune with players to keep themselves relevant.

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Old 06-23-2017, 12:50 PM   #585
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Weren't the Flames over the cap in the off-season but it was ok since Smid was going on LTIR?
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So is that why it's Day 2 of the season? I may be wrong but I though teams could be 10% over the cap during the offseason but once the season starts have to be cap compliant
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#mnwild has something cooking. Sounds like Scandella. Wild has been asking for a first-round deal in any package
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Looks like Scandella on the move

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#mnwild has something cooking. Sounds like Scandella. Wild has been asking for a first-round deal in any package
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Sustaining the system itself. Did it ever occur to you the reason our team sucked for so long was because we had a GM who would deal away our picks and best prospects for run of the mill players or has-beens? Our system was devoid of any quality players and our team imploded as a result. The team has finally started to see the returns on good scouting and drafting and building an actual pipeline of talent. Now is not the time to damage that life sustaining flow of talent. We are hard up to making trades for impact players because of the NMC, which Calgary is almost universally on. So you have to draft and develop them.
Our team sucked because it was poorly constructed. They had a Hall of Fame RWer, the best goalie the city had ever seen, and frankly not much else. The three best centres Jarome ever played with were Daymond Langkow, Olli Jokinen and Craig Conroy.

On defense, their best defenseman was Robyn Regehr, who couldn't play offense. Their second best defenseman was a young Dion, who couldn't/wouldn't play defense.

They never managed to find another elite player forward.

The Flames as they are currently constructed are light years better than any team Darryl Sutter ever assembled. Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Frolik and Tkachuk are a better group of top six forwards than anything the Flames have iced post-2000.

The defense needs one top-4 guy to be able to play two pairs 25 minutes a night.

One core player is older than 28. Trade some prospects and help this group. Don't trade prospects in the desperate hope that a poorly constructed gaggle of aging veterans will finally get it done.
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Looks like Scandella on the move

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My guess? Toronto.
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Weren't the Flames over the cap in the off-season but it was ok since Smid was going on LTIR?
No they were literally at the cap then got relief. Like 300 dollars below or something comical
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Still not that easy though as Weitz summarized:
It is for Arizona - they don't sign free agents, it's not like they're ever going to exceed the 10% tagging threshold.
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Old 06-23-2017, 12:53 PM   #593
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My guess? Toronto.
Bruins have rumored to be after him, but that seems like a good fit too.
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Bruins have rumored to be after him, but that seems like a good fit too.
Montreal could also be in the mix after trading Beaulieu, and Sergachev
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I would move a 1st for scandella to add to calgary's current defensive group.
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I think There is a cap dump element to Stepan, the Rangers had apparently soured on him and need the cap space to go shopping, because the Rangers are like that wife who loves to shop and will throw old but valuable things away just to shop for new shiny things.
Oh definitely. But he didn't have negative value. A top 10 pick for a slightly overpaid but serviceable top two line centre seems fair to me. They weren't going to (and didn't) give Stepan away for nothing just to dump the salary. It wasn't a toxic contract. I'm sure several teams were interested in Stepan.
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I would move a 1st for scandella to add to calgary's current defensive group.

He is a LHD though correct? Unless they are willing to play Brodie on the right side I would rather target Hamonic, or Dumba
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:04 PM   #598
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All I'm going to say is, that it would be foolish for BT to move that pick (if he were considering doing so) before we knew who was on the board at #16. If somebody like Martin Necas is there you run to the podium without asking questions.
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Wonder what it would cost to get Zibanejad out of New York, feel like hes a guy that would be a great fit with our forwards.
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Wonder what it would cost to get Zibanejad out of New York, feel like hes a guy that would be a great fit with our forwards.
Isn't he a centre? Doubt the Rangers move another centre
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